Seven day COVID case totals reach record levels, everybody panic

Nice try. Piling all the US data together makes it look like everything is fine because places where the virus is coming under control have very low positive rates but are ramping up testing and offset the places where the virus is getting completely out of control.

In Houston, there has not been a big increase in testing. But the positive rate has gone from 3-4% at the beginning of June to 14%. Base ICU capacity is now full at the Texas Medical Center. The trajectory is similar across the state.

And testing data is also deceptive in that it can show a false inflection point. In Houston, the testing sites are swamped and are turning people away. It takes over a week to get an appointment for a test. Otherwise, you have to go sit in your car and wait at an outdoor testing site. So, it may appear that Texas hits a peak of 5-6k cases a day, but it may still be growing because the testing capacity is insufficient to capture what is really going on.

It may not and should not be as bad as it was in the Northeast for the states that are currently under fire. We have had time to prepare and are ready. But that doesn't mean we aren't in for a lot of misery. Testing, tracing and isolation measures are scant in Texas. The people who are currently testing positive will probably be infecting their families. And then there are still lots of dummies out there who are still going to bars and restaurants and making employees come in to work who can work from home (looking at you ExxonMobil).

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/covid-19-testing-trends/

What happened to these people?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/12/us/ozarks-missouri-party-coronavirus-positive/index.html

Just looked at the deaths. 800’ish Tuesday and Wednesday and it’s saying 2,100 already today?

God I hope that’s a typo or something wrong with the system.

New Jersey added 1,700 or so old deaths that were likely presumed positives (you know, people who died in their homes from heart attacks and strokes because they were too afraid to seek care because they didn't want to get coronavirus at the hospital, but they are going to put them down as covid deaths).

Here is the article:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-jerseys-covid-19-death-toll-rises-14-when-probable-fatalities-added-11593109913

Thank you for encouraging people to wear masks. I agree that panic isn't the answer. We should also continue to avoid the situations known to be especially conducive to spreading, like meeting indoors, spending time in crowded spaces, or loud yelling/singing/talking.

Deaths are the ultimate lagging indicator, so it will be 3-4 weeks before we see the ultimate consequence of this rise in case numbers. Stay safe, people.

And here is another article about the CDC advising people not to stay home when in need of emergency medical help:

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19-pandemic-kept-thousands-170002912.html

A lot of these new COVID deaths from New Jersey (all recorded without a test) could be from anything.

Fock the testing. People are dying, and the number dying every day is climbing again. That number was dropping for a while, now it's climbing, and climbing fast.

I'm just posting to make sure the coronaphobes avoid all rational argument.

joedirt wrote:

Seven day case totals reached 226,806, exceeding the 7-day total of 217,146 from April 26th, so everybody panic, right? Wrong. When we hit those numbers before, we were testing 1.34 million people per week. Now, we are testing 3.63 million people per week. Now, we are testing a much greater percentage of the population (not just those with severe symptoms) and are including antibody test results, which indicate people with past COVID, not active COVID, which is why 7-day death totals (4,340) are 72% below the peak of 15,455 from April 21st. Still be sure to wear a mask when indoors in public locations, but get back out there and live your life. Don't believe the MSM who are trying to manipulate the numbers to sell ad-clicks and newspapers.

Did Joedirt have parents or grandparents who never believed smoking could cause cancer? I bet his parents said that the smoking concerns were silly because there is no proof. Genetics I am guessing.

this is just messed up america . other countries except brazil and usa are moving towards phase 3 .

If social distancing, wearing a mask, frequent hand washing, and being extra careful is "panicking" then I guess I am panicking.

As NYC begins to open up I will try not to go on the subway, go to bars, restaurants, movie theaters, or crowded parks and playgrounds. I'll postpone a trip out west as well.

Good luck in the south, I guess heat doesn't kill the virus after all.

Go to church now, South and Flyovers!

Hell.

The latest story says at least 23 million Americans have it right now!

Why are the leftists like Precious always trying to overhype the scamdemic? Well, except for the 2 weeks they were praising Antifa punks.

What’s your endgame Roy Boy? Is it simply to try to hurt the economy and provide cover so Dementia Joe can stay hidden in the basement?

Why bother wearing a mask if you're not going to wear it properly? Sort of like wearing a condom with a hole in it.

You don't understand how herd immunity works. New York cases have continued to decline because a crap ton of people there had it. Probably more than half. There will be no second wave there because there's not enough people there who have never been infected for the virus to run like it did in March and April.

Other places that are less population-dense or shut down before more of a spread still need to reach a level where the virus slows naturally.

This is natural. The idea of stopping the virus was a fool's idea from the start. This isn't that bad. We need to hold the course and open back up and stop trying to freak everyone the hell out. We're getting close to the point where this thing will slow spread naturally through our own immunity.

why u r? wrote:

Did Joedirt have parents or grandparents who never believed smoking could cause cancer? I bet his parents said that the smoking concerns were silly because there is no proof. Genetics I am guessing.

My mother did smoke cigarettes (started as a teenager, quit in her forties when her father died). She died in her late sixties from an unrelated form of cancer (if you have never experienced watching someone you love die of cancer, it is not the best experience in the world). My father is still alive and never smoked. Both grandfathers were smokers (as were most men who served their nation in the second world war, as they were included in the rations they gave to soldiers as they increased alertness and improved morale), ironically both lived to be in their 80s in spite of it all. In their defense, the advertising for cigarettes was considerably different back then than it is today.

I don't deny that COVID is real and I have a good understanding of the statistics surrounding it. Unlike cigarette smoking in the 40s, 50s and 60s, its risks and its vectors for infection are fairly well understood. Individuals should be able to exercise what ever precautions they see fit in order to reduce the likelihood of contracting this disease. Just as it is a bad idea to smoke (I have never smoked a cigarette or used drugs in my life, and I rarely drink), it is also a bad idea to go to confined public spaces without a mask. The problem with blaming the government for people exercising poor precautions is it takes away personal accountability for one's actions.

There is no need to shut down a state's economy because of the bad actors out there. Some young idiot wants to go hang out in crowded bars without a mask and hookup with random skanks on Tinder, then they are free to do so. Some one wants to drink themselves into a stupor and fall asleep on a playground, then go right ahead. If you want to go topple a statue and fire off flare guns at a cop car, there is nothing stopping them from going out and doing it. Ultimately, they are the ones that have to pay for their actions.

My state's government re-started its economy before it hit the CDC's guidelines for reopening. In spite of that, our confirmed hospitalizations dropped from 888 individuals to 135 individuals (and most of that drop occurred in the past 2 months since reopening). Our economy has rebounded nicely and continues to improve (not as good as Nebraska's economy). Once the federal unemployment benefits run out, it will likely improve even more, as people will be less inclined to hide out at home. Businesses and individuals have had plenty of time to implement new business models for the situation we find ourselves in. Shutting things down again is not economically viable (did you know that per capita fatality rates were 75% lower in states that never locked down?). Wear a mask, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer and take responsibility for yourself and those you care about.

I don't agree with you but I'm not mad at your rationale here. This is the only poster that has come out against the shutdowns that has shown they actually have a functioning brain. Good comment.