Lance Armstrong admits doping may have caused his testicular canceR

IPlayTrackFoundation wrote:

Lance Armstrong admits doping may have caused his testicular cancer as disgraced Tour de France winner confesses he was a drug cheat from the age of 21... NINETEEN YEARS before he was caught and banned.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8336035/Lance-Armstrong-admits-doping-caused-testicular-cancer.html

When asked what age he was when he first began doping, he replies after a long pause for thought: 'Probably 21'.

Armstrong turned 22 just one month after being crowned the road race world champion so it seems likely that he was cheating before the first major win of his career.

The best retribution against Lance is that no matter how much he admits about his doping and or is apologetic about it is that every morning when he looks in the mirror he sees a F**KING CHEATER!!, and every night before he goes to bed he looks in the mirror and sees a F**KING CHEATER!!. To know that all of the success he had was not deserved or earned. No matter who was cheating ahead or behind him in the races there were other riders who were clean and truly suffering while trying to push themselves to the absolute limit. Lance will always live with this and always know he was and is a TOTAL DISGRACE and FAILURE both as a person and "Wannabe" athlete.

"Go Run One"

bpc-157 wrote:

Piano_Man87 wrote:

They were talking about HGH, not EPO. Read the posts in this thread.

I did read it. I already made a comment clarifying that hgh does not cause cancer (maybe you missed that comment), and was reaffirming they correction of misinformation regarding EPO.

Okay, man.

Funny how Lance and Ferrari feel completely different, but hey, you're an anonymous poster on a webpage so it doesn't matter, huh?

BUTTHOLE SURFER wrote:

The best retribution against Lance is that no matter how much he admits about his doping and or is apologetic about it is that every morning when he looks in the mirror he sees a F**KING CHEATER!!, and every night before he goes to bed he looks in the mirror and sees a F**KING CHEATER!!. To know that all of the success he had was not deserved or earned. No matter who was cheating ahead or behind him in the races there were other riders who were clean and truly suffering while trying to push themselves to the absolute limit. Lance will always live with this and always know he was and is a TOTAL DISGRACE and FAILURE both as a person and "Wannabe" athlete.

"Go Run One"

That's not retribution, bro. Lance doesn't give AF about any of that.

At the end of the day, he's still rich, he's still famous, and he's still relevant.

None of what you wrote changes any of that, and he knows it better than anyone.

Essentially, a hobby cyclist became famous and wealthy for cheating...and he is still making money off of his lie. Imagine a 2:20 guy making tens of millions of dollars off doping.

Lab Rate wrote:

Essentially, a hobby cyclist became famous and wealthy for cheating...and he is still making money off of his lie. Imagine a 2:20 guy making tens of millions of dollars off doping.

There is no need to imagine that when you can witness it at any major marathon.

Tour de Dope wrote:

Not defending him - but virtually all of his top GC rivals were doped to the max:

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So takeaway LA's crap attitude and he was a good responder to PEDs and the best placed doper for 7 consecutive Tours. ?

Agreed, of course. I just find it, say, interesting or amusing that so many Americans believed that he's clean, despite his positive tests in 1999, among many other things.

Ullrich - who is actually very screwed up right now - got lucky and unlucky at the same time. Lucky that he got to keep his title and 2nd places, unlucky that he didn't get promoted to a multiple TdF winner after Amstrong's DQs. Compare this to Poistogova for example, a career doper whose Olympic bronze medal got upgraded to silver after the winner, her teammate, got DQ'ed. Or Kiprop, who got Ramzi's gold.

BUTTHOLE SURFER wrote:

The best retribution against Lance is that no matter how much he admits about his doping and or is apologetic about it is that every morning when he looks in the mirror he sees a F**KING CHEATER!!, and every night before he goes to bed he looks in the mirror and sees a F**KING CHEATER!!. To know that all of the success he had was not deserved or earned. No matter who was cheating ahead or behind him in the races there were other riders who were clean and truly suffering while trying to push themselves to the absolute limit. Lance will always live with this and always know he was and is a TOTAL DISGRACE and FAILURE both as a person and "Wannabe" athlete.

"Go Run One"

This is going to sound strange but at least he manned up and confessed it. I am not condonoing his cheating and yes you can argue that he was sort of forced to confess but there are a lot of cheaters who never get officially caught and who never have to confess to their cheating. Doorbell Farah, many of Jama Aden's athletes and off-score Radcliffe are some fairly obvious examples. I have even less respect for those cheats than I do for Lance.

casual obsever wrote:

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Ullrich - who is actually very screwed up right now - got lucky and unlucky at the same time. Lucky that he got to keep his title and 2nd places, unlucky that he didn't get promoted to a multiple TdF winner after Amstrong's DQs. Compare this to Poistogova for example, a career doper whose Olympic bronze medal got upgraded to silver after the winner, her teammate, got DQ'ed. Or Kiprop, who got Ramzi's gold.

It's a good thing that he didn't get upgraded because he (Ullrich) eventually fessed up that he was indeed involved in Operation Puerto AND he was one of the people that was confirmed positive for EPO when the '98 tests were re-tested "anonymously" many years later.

Armstrong should be reinstated as winner from 99 to 2005, and Landis should get 2006 back. I believe 100% it was an "even playing field" and I don't want to hear about "high responders", because the same could be said about "high responders" to some diet or "high responders" to some type of training, yet we will not castigate them for being "high responders."

If you think Team Sky/Ineos is so much cleaner than those teams of yore, you got another thing coming. They have a 45 million dollar budget. With that comes pressure and expectations. They have three tour winners on one team, and now the TT WC AND a former Giro winner. It's a doping clearing house.

A huge part of the Lance story was that he won the Tour after cancer. That story was bigger than sport.

Although many suspected his PED use may have led to cancer, its a big thing for him to publicly admit this possibility. This is him sending a better message about PED use and cheating.

For me, him saying this elevates him (very slightly) off the absolute very bottom of the !#_* hole of cheaters. He is never going to climb out of that hole, and there is no such thing as a good cheater, but he is trending (a little) in the right direction.

Oh yes it is.

I do agree that Lance doesn't give AF........but only in regard to the other clean riders (He calls them "Choads"). He simply believes they're idiots for not doping and shouldn't be competing. My point being is that Lance is a F**ked Up dude and no matter how rich (he's not that rich by the way- a lot of lawsuits are still hanging over his head) or famous or relevant he still is very much aware of what people think of him and don't think for one second it doesn't bother him. Retired professional athletes hit a point in their lives where self reflection becomes very deep. You question the validity of your successes and whether those successes are relevant not only to you but to those around you and who knew you. At the end of the day no one really cares, it's the person in the mirror every morning and night that matters. Lance is a failure both as a person (as many of those who knew him have stated) and as an athlete......and no one knows this better than Mr. Lance Armstrong.

"Go Run One"

BUTTHOLE SURFER wrote:

common knowledge wrote:

That's not retribution, bro. Lance doesn't give AF about any of that.

At the end of the day, he's still rich, he's still famous, and he's still relevant.

None of what you wrote changes any of that, and he knows it better than anyone.

Oh yes it is.

Nuh uh.

Bad Wigins wrote:

I always figured just the mere fact of spending that much time crouched down in the bumpy saddle could cause enough chronic damage to result in a cancer.

If I ever thought something this stupid I would probably try to keep it to myself.

Carnival barker...just like the guy in the White House...just ignore...

Tour de Dope wrote:

Holy crap - "87% of the top-10 finishers!" (that's a stat that even rekrunner would have to accept. Lol).

Not only a stat I would accept, but a stat I have used to compare to other sports.

Mate, I was on the Komen stack for 6 months and my testicles went back inside my body.

The good thing was I got to compete in the UK athletics championships women's 800m as an intersex athlete.

It's hilarious in the same way Trump said "grab them by the p*ssy" both are beyond successful and did exactly what someone in their position would do....rich white old men get what they want and if you want to win, you cheat.

That's life, I think Lance is great, a role model and a perfect example of the American dream.

Watching his videos cycling are inspiring and motivate me, I don't give a crap if he was doped, it's the passion and drive

db87 wrote:

It's hilarious in the same way Trump said "grab them by the p*ssy" both are beyond successful and did exactly what someone in their position would do....rich white old men get what they want and if you want to win, you cheat.

That's life, I think Lance is great, a role model and a perfect example of the American dream.

Watching his videos cycling are inspiring and motivate me, I don't give a crap if he was doped, it's the passion and drive

^Racist and sexist drivel, poorly written.

Tour de Dope wrote:

Too funny.

Lance was about to giveaway some Tour doping secrets with his identity concealed but one of the cameramen blew it! ?

https://youtu.be/MCbN6-nrZYc

This is classic.

Wow. Wow. Wow. wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

I always figured just the mere fact of spending that much time crouched down in the bumpy saddle could cause enough chronic damage to result in a cancer.

If I ever thought something this stupid I would probably try to keep it to myself.

No this is incorrect, a study about 15 years ago found that elite male mountain bikers reported a way higher incidence of testicular issues.