The official (and only) Ahmaud Arbery thread

Armstronglivs wrote:

Reflection_ wrote:

ArmstrongLivs...please do not play his circular reindeer games. Your post covered all angles...and the Deflector only wishes to turn the attention off your points and on to himself!!!

His opinions don't interest me. His unceasing attempts to blame Arbery show where he's coming from, and he does so by playing with the facts and without knowing how the law works. It is an ill-informed and egoistic display. As I have said, he is a narcissist gaslighting the thread under the pretence of genuine inquiry.

You Sir are preaching to the choir on your analysis of Deflector. I concur with you; however, I do think his intents are a little more nefarious given that a lot of his talking points can also be found on Stormfront.

Ciro wrote:

Varsity Lu wrote:

This is why everyone needs to stop engaging him: it has been show time after time that the McRednecks were assaulting AA by brandishing weapons and chasing him for over 4 minutes, yet somehow, in this turds twisted mind, AA is the one guilty of assault. The fat a$$ rednecks were standing their ground. Riiiight. It's almost psychopathic this type of delusion.

Just stop responding. He will only stop if we stop. There is no reasoning with him.

+1, best ignored, not a serious poster.

+2, I dismiss anything he says about this case. I call him what he is. Shaming the shameless takes energy but it is something I do with a badge of honor!

Replies in bold above

Liars gonna lie. He’s still at it.

Facts are facts. You don't have to like them or agree with them, but if you're objective, you should be prepared to reconcile them. Or argue against them with reason and contrary facts. Ad hominen attacks or emotional appeals are not logical arguments. You can be sure ppening arguments at trials for Bryan and McMichael's will not begin with the prosecution claiming "The defence lawyers are racist, and so is anyone who doesn't find these men guilty..."

Ciro wrote:

Varsity Lu wrote:

This is why everyone needs to stop engaging him: it has been show time after time that the McRednecks were assaulting AA by brandishing weapons and chasing him for over 4 minutes, yet somehow, in this turds twisted mind, AA is the one guilty of assault. The fat a$$ rednecks were standing their ground. Riiiight. It's almost psychopathic this type of delusion.

Just stop responding. He will only stop if we stop. There is no reasoning with him.

+1, best ignored, not a serious poster.

Ernest wrote:

Facts are facts.

You don't have to like them or agree with them, but if you're objective, you should be prepared to reconcile them. Or argue against them with reason and contrary facts.

Ad hominen attacks or emotional appeals are not logical arguments.

You can be sure ppening arguments at trials for Bryan and McMichael's will not begin with the prosecution claiming "The defence lawyers are racist, and so is anyone who doesn't find these men guilty..."

Well said!

Ward Cleaver wrote:

Ronald Dump wrote:

This is the case in a lot of states.

This is not a case of public pressure causing GBI to arrest the guy. It was mentioned he was under investigation and facing charges from the day the McMichaels were arrested. He was a participant in the basic crime of illegally attempting false imprisonment thus also exposing him to the murder charges.

If you believe there has been no public pressure in this case you haven't been following along.

Where did I say there has been no public pressure?

Ronald Dump wrote:

Ward Cleaver wrote:

If you believe there has been no public pressure in this case you haven't been following along.

Where did I say there has been no public pressure?

I bolded what I gathered from your prior statement above.

Ward Cleaver wrote:

Ronald Dump wrote:

Where did I say there has been no public pressure?

I bolded what I gathered from your prior statement above.

So you've jumped from the statement I made which was that he wasn't arrested due to public pressure to I believe there's no public pressure in the case. Followed up by a statement based on that leap that I haven't been paying attention. This without your typical series of questions which may have clarified things. However you chose to "engage" in a different and incorrect fashion.

You may enjoy your ask questions, then when you get an answer you don't like, change to another question, then when that runs out of juice, return to an older question which had previously been responded to but is now a couple of pages back. Feign misunderstanding to the point of complete naiveté to demonstrating that there is evidence available that you could not have read to misinterpreting what posters have written. You'll have to do it without any response from me.

Great! I was having a hard time following what you were trying to say. Sorry about the confusion.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Please note: to post on this thread you must be a registered user. Racism will not be tolerated.

What about this post? I am just asking questions:

rojo wrote:

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Context:

So... is there more than one police report, or is this another mistake by another reporter?

Not sure what you're referring to - or why this is a reply to me.

There are probably multiple sets of police notes and related recordings/records.

At least 13 responding officers attended the scene of Arbery's shooting.

I've only seen one police report, filed by the Responsible Officer, and that document is linked in this thread.

On Bryan's involvement, it only states this...

"[Gregory] McMichael stated... the unidentified male turned around and began running back the direction from which he came and 'Roddy'' attempted to block him which was unsuccessful."

That report lists Bryan and McMichael Sr. as witnesses, not suspects.

The GBI must have uncovered relevant and damning evidence since to charge Bryan. The full 4-minute chase video would seem significant.

My replies above in bold.

For those who need the reasoning you pointed out yesterday beaten about their head.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-who-recorded-ahmaud-arbery-s-shooting-death-video-arrested-n1212496

The article seems to convey both McMichaels rode in the bed of Bryan's truck, and that it was Bryan who first pursued and blocked Arbery. This is not consistent with the Police Report (linked Page 61 of this thread), which states the McMichaels were entirely in their own vehicle, and it was them that initiated the chase. According to the report, the McMichaels already attempted to block Arbery before Bryan did the same. Sequence seems to go something like... 1. Arbery flees on foot (away from the trespass site). 2. McMichael's get in their truck and block the road before Arbery. 3. Arbery doubles back in direction he just came. 4. Bryan, who had been following and filming from his vehicle, now sees Arbery running toward him. Bryan is said to use his vehicle to unsuccessfully block Arbery. 5. Arbery again runs again toward the McMichaels - this is when the altercation and shootings occur.

Ward Cleaver wrote:

This is was what caught my attention:

According to a police report, Greg McMichael told police that he and his son pursued Arbery after McMichael recognized him from “several recent break-ins in the neighborhood.” He said Bryan tried unsuccessfully to block Arbery’s path and that at that point, he and his son “jumped into the bed of the truck” and continued the chase, the police report said.

Yes, that was exactly what I have thought all along, which is why I wonder if someone made a mistake with the information presented in that article, or were there mistakes in the police report(s)? Hard to know what really are the "facts"?

It's unclear who "you" is or what "reasoning" is referred to - but no one needs anything "beaten about their head". The article does seem to present new facts. The original shooting video was 32 seconds, with Bryan apparently following as an observer,. A single line (quoting McMichael) in the police report states stating Bryan blocked Arbery once with his vehicle, but only after Arbery reversed direction toward him. Yesterday, we learned the video leading up to and including the shooting was 4 minutes long, and this was said or believed to substantially represent the entire chase. I heralded that as significant and helping Arbery's side. The article below now states Bryan blocked Arbery with his vehicle "on multiple occasions between about 1 p.m. and 1:20 p.m." - so at least 20 minutes? This reinforces what I stated earlier today, that the GBI must have uncovered new and damning evidence to bring charges against Bryan - and it seems they have.

Ronald Dump wrote:

For those who need the reasoning you pointed out yesterday beaten about their head.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-who-recorded-ahmaud-arbery-s-shooting-death-video-arrested-n1212496

This thread is still going on?

These two turds haven't had a date with the chair yet?