Video Highlights 2015 Boston Marathon
April 20, 2015
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Kenneth StiIIman wrote:
theREALsmokingGunner wrote:I seriously stopped reading right there.
Get a grip Ken.
Ken's obsessed with Mike, fair enough so are plenty on here, keeps the thread going and sometimes new information.
You're obsessed with Ken because he's said some nasty things about you, apart from you who gives a rats. Leave it and forget it.
Not much happening so I thought I'd Google 'mike rossi'. Funny they're all about him cheating.
Top ten:
Questions Arise Over How a Pennsylvania Dad Qualified for ...www.runnersworld.com
LetsRun.com Offers Massive Reward to Viral Boston ...www.runnersworld.com
Mike Rossi - The Viral Boston Marathon Dad - LetsRun.com
The Aftermath of Letsrun's $100000 Challenge to Mike Rossi - marathoncheat.blogspot.com
Mike Rossi's $100,000 Marathon Training Plan ...www.mensjournal.com
LetsRun offers "Marathon Dad" Mike Rossi $100000 to run 3 ...runningmagazine.ca
Boston Marathon mike-rossi - Philadelphia Magazine -
Cecily Tynan Says She Ran a Marathon Faster Than Mike ...www.phillymag.com
LIFE'S GOOD MIKEY.
When things seem their bleakest for Mike, in a moment of self-promotional brilliance, he'll release the VIA photos and two valid GPS files. The massive positive shift in public opinion will launch Mike's successful run for a Senate seat which in turn will lead to a small but significant evacuation of Earth.
And the National Anthem changed to, aw, you guessed it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmfEMWaJ-Qg
EllenCaileMC wrote:
When things seem their bleakest for Mike, in a moment of self-promotional brilliance, he'll release the VIA photos and two valid GPS files. The massive positive shift in public opinion will launch Mike's successful run for a Senate seat which in turn will lead to a small but significant evacuation of Earth.
first result that appears on youtube if you search for MR. that's a win.
Hey Barb! Put your cane down and have someone tell you about this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxKfEiOfGmY
somebloke wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzhW4YAVqxofirst result that appears on youtube if you search for MR. that's a win.
Laughable wrote:
Once the run is edited, you can't prove anything if you share it. There is no red flag that says "EDITED" to differentiate from an actual, unedited run.
I was tempted to let this go as maybe Mike would believe your assertion to be true and actually share the run. But he will never share this "evidence" so I will explain where you are wrong.
What you fail to realize is that there is other data associated with the run. Yes, the rendered page doesn't say "EDITED" and there is no flag for this.
But if you view the source of the page you can see the actual collected data. It is in JSON format and the object (window.np.baked_data) can be found in one of the script tags.
Amongst the data in this object are the waypoints and few other sets of data that is not modified when a run is edited. Now you can change the overall information (total distance, total time). But the waypoints don't change and therefore the actual distance can be calculated. But the distance isn't in dispute here since we know the map he showed is of the 5K course.
There is also other data for speed (for those nifty pace color displays on the map) and GPS signal strength (which they don't seem to do anything with in the display). Both of these are captured at regular intervals (10 seconds) so with this you can calculate the overall actual time (with in 10 seconds). And obviously, the speed information tells you how fast the runner was actually going.
You can fudge the summary, but you can't fudge what was collected. So if the run was posted, it would take less than a minute to verify it. If anyone wants more specific examples I would be happy to provide them. And if by chance the actual run does make it to the web and you are lost on what to do; just right click the page and select "View page source". Save that text to a file. You can then pass it along to someone that knows what to do with it.
somebloke wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzhW4YAVqxofirst result that appears on youtube if you search for MR. that's a win.
This is my favorite.
Can someone explain the Chicken Dance references?
runningonempty wrote:
marafun wrote:You can't really expect people to remember what goes on in 900 pages of mostly bickering between posters.
The overreaction to changing the subject line was a tell. I had no malicious intent changing the subject line. My first time posting, and there's a "subject" box in the response. I put in the correct subject, one that I was discussing, not an inflammatory accusation at Mike with multiple adjectives.
The overreaction DID in fact make me wonder about the level of paranoia in the posters here. Seriously?
Peace out. Stop fighting among yourselves. Lots of good work has gone on here in trying to uncover evidence and cataloguing evidence. That's where the energy should go.
Try to make this a welcoming place. Did I just say that out loud? Letsrun is a place for civilized discussion, right? Hahaha!
Well said Marafun..
Any new lurker or poster that slams Rossi is a plus. Maybe that person found out on FB and checked out the thread. Maybe that person shares that on FB.. Maybe more of Rossi's neighbors find out what a gem he is. The more people that know about Rossi the better.
So lets not slam the new post or old question or act the way Rossi describes us..Let's not fight among ourselves. I think we got Rossi backed into a corner. He will never admit he cheated at VIA or the HTT but maybe we can catch him next time....
Great to see another non runner here. These runners think they are better than us but they aren't.
Kenneth StiIlman wrote:
Kenneth StiIIman wrote:Ken's obsessed with Mike, fair enough so are plenty on here, keeps the thread going and sometimes new information.
You're obsessed with Ken because he's said some nasty things about you, apart from you who gives a rats. Leave it and forget it.
Oh and let's not forget you are probsbly a lib jew.
Lover of Rossi all day you are.
and what is up with the "jew" hating?
Kenneth StiIlman wrote:
runningonempty wrote:Well said Marafun..
Any new lurker or poster that slams Rossi is a plus. Maybe that person found out on FB and checked out the thread. Maybe that person shares that on FB.. Maybe more of Rossi's neighbors find out what a gem he is. The more people that know about Rossi the better.
So lets not slam the new post or old question or act the way Rossi describes us..Let's not fight among ourselves. I think we got Rossi backed into a corner. He will never admit he cheated at VIA or the HTT but maybe we can catch him next time....
Great to see another non runner here. These runners think they are better than us but they aren't.
Well, they are faster than you and this is a running forum. So, there's that.
Kenneth StiIlman wrote:
Kenneth StiIIman wrote:Ken's obsessed with Mike, fair enough so are plenty on here, keeps the thread going and sometimes new information.
You're obsessed with Ken because he's said some nasty things about you, apart from you who gives a rats. Leave it and forget it.
Oh and let's not forget you are probsbly a lib jew.
Lover of Rossi all day you are.
In case you're wondering if am not anti semetic. This guy is just hung up on statements about German soldiers I made which apply to all soldiers in war.
Handle highjacking. Note Kenneth Sti_Il_man and Kenneth Sti_II_man.My little demons are all over this.
5 Miles at 5K Pace wrote:
and what is up with the "jew" hating?
Satan wrote:
Handle highjacking. Note Kenneth Sti_Il_man and Kenneth Sti_II_man.
My little demons are all over this.
5 Miles at 5K Pace wrote:and what is up with the "jew" hating?
Yes people like to capitalize "i" and put it in place of a lowercase "L".
For example, StiIIman can be capitalized to look like Stillman.
Part for the course when dealing with small minded dimwits.
Handle high jacking capital i vs lower case l can be detected using most browsers using the "find" feature. Though capital i and lower case l appear the same on the Letsrun font, they are saved as unique characters and the browser "find" will show them differently.
On my Mac, Command+F opens the finder for most browsers. For Windows, it should be Cntl+F. If I type the letter i, all the i's on the page are highlighted. Scroll to the handle you're checking.
Try it here: IlIIIIlllllIII I l I l llllllllIllllll
bored troLLer wrote:
Handle high jacking capital i vs lower case l can be detected using most browsers using the "find" feature. Though capital i and lower case l appear the same on the Letsrun font, they are saved as unique characters and the browser "find" will show them differently.
On my Mac, Command+F opens the finder for most browsers. For Windows, it should be Cntl+F. If I type the letter i, all the i's on the page are highlighted. Scroll to the handle you're checking.
Try it here: IlIIIIlllllIII I l I l llllllllIllllll
Yes the only surefire way to avoid confusion is to capitalize L and lowercase i in your name.
SmartRunnr was famous for doing this. Whenever anybody would complain he would rant that people shouldn't care since this is an anonymous board anyways. It was almost immediately after the handle theft.
Pretty immature trolling tactic to use whenever someone gets the best of you.
Jackie Blue wrote:
You can fudge the summary, but you can't fudge what was collected. So if the run was posted, it would take less than a minute to verify it. If anyone wants more specific examples I would be happy to provide them. And if by chance the actual run does make it to the web and you are lost on what to do; just right click the page and select "View page source". Save that text to a file. You can then pass it along to someone that knows what to do with it.
Given what you described, you certainly can fudge what was collected. If it's just JSON data then you can edit that data.
I doubt that Mike has the skills to edit it correctly though.
Fat hurts wrote:
Jackie Blue wrote:You can fudge the summary, but you can't fudge what was collected. So if the run was posted, it would take less than a minute to verify it. If anyone wants more specific examples I would be happy to provide them. And if by chance the actual run does make it to the web and you are lost on what to do; just right click the page and select "View page source". Save that text to a file. You can then pass it along to someone that knows what to do with it.
Given what you described, you certainly can fudge what was collected. If it's just JSON data then you can edit that data.
I doubt that Mike has the skills to edit it correctly though.
Mike is a wedding DJ, not a nuclear physicist.
Pushing the play button is the hardest part of his job.
Fat hurts wrote:
Given what you described, you certainly can fudge what was collected. If it's just JSON data then you can edit that data.
I doubt that Mike has the skills to edit it correctly though.
No, you cannot. Are your familiar with how web applications work? I am not trying to be condescending here, just trying to gauge how detailed this discussion needs to be. The web page (HTML) is served up from the Nike+ web server and rendered by the client (a web browser). This page includes the JSON, which comes from the server side based on what is persisted there. Sure you can locally modify the served data using browser tools like Firebug or the built in Chrome utilities, but that only effects your local version. There server data is not effected by this. So you can edit JSON data, yes. But you cannot push your JSON data back to the Nike+ server so everyone who subsequently views the page will see it. Unless of course you are very highly skilled in hacking; but come on - despite the Twitter claims I don't think our hero is a man with any "certain skills".
Basically, when you edit a run you are only editing the summary. These edits are persisted on the servers but there is no functionality in Nike+ to modify way points, pace information, or GPS signal data. So those remain unchanged from the time the run is synchronized to the servers.
If you have a Nike+ account edit a run and then view the source in your web browser (note you cannot edit runs captured with the Nike+ watches). You should quickly see what I am talking about.