Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

You say Mike cyberbullied an adult?

Your reaction?

Cyberbully CHILDREN on twitter!

You cant deny this. You bully innocent children on twitter you piece of shit.

theREALsmokingGunner wrote:

You say Mike cyberbullied an adult?

Your reaction?

Cyberbully CHILDREN on twitter!

You cant deny this. You bully innocent children on twitter you piece of shit.

Don't forget what he said this morning, which was comical if not a sad reflection on the hypocrisy of most things written by LMR:

"I don't wish any ill will on Mikes wife and children. I merely point out to Mike all the psychological scars and bruises he has inflicted on them by lying and cheating."

No ill will? Was that before or after the repetitive cyber-bullying of children and his wife calling by her names and questioning their relationship? No ill will? Is that your idea of goodwill? No need for an answer, those were rhetorical, if not sarcastic questions.

Inconvenient Truth wrote:

theREALsmokingGunner wrote:

You say Mike cyberbullied an adult?

Your reaction?

Cyberbully CHILDREN on twitter!

You cant deny this. You bully innocent children on twitter you piece of shit.

Don't forget what he said this morning, which was comical if not a sad reflection on the hypocrisy of most things written by LMR:

"I don't wish any ill will on Mikes wife and children. I merely point out to Mike all the psychological scars and bruises he has inflicted on them by lying and cheating."

No ill will? Was that before or after the repetitive cyber-bullying of children and his wife calling by her names and questioning their relationship? No ill will? Is that your idea of goodwill? No need for an answer, those were rhetorical, if not sarcastic questions.

By now, you guys made abundantly clear that you don't care much for Ken and his methods. Point taken, let's move on.

Not completely worthless, serves for decent thread filler. We're almost at 1,000 pages. Ken & the troll-feeders have their moments and then the thread settles again. What else do we do until more pictures or a video surface, or until Mike can't take it anymore and I blocks his Twitter? We know what happened at the Turkey Trot. The RD may get a good laugh out of seeing a snapshot of Mike's Nike app but very unlikely he'd DQ him over that. We need a couple more pictures from the finish line like the one TAG posted and then there will be a very compelling case. If we find a video he's definitely dunzo. He's desperate right now and just praying nothing else comes out. I'd say it's a little late for him to try to lie low and let the dust settle. It's been coming Mike, thanks to you.How's the hair today btw? Does it still look like it did in that radio station photo?

dreamin wrote:

rexthebex wrote:

Bunch of new pages since I last read the thread. That always means one of two things:

A.) New development

B.) Ken is back and people are engaging with him

Sorry to see the answer is B.

+1 Going back and forth with Ken and acknowledging the trolls is what kills this thread. The last 10 pages are worthless. It's easy people, just don't reply!

printer wrote:I say no to the contacting of the race director. This guy did this race as a pro bono exercise. There's nothing to be gained there.

Rossi cheated at the Haddon Township Turkey Trot, got exposed, and had to shut down his social media accounts. He lost. Game over.

Plus, by posting the one link on the DQ Events, I'm sure some of the other local timing groups are on something of an alert [even though it's been pulled since]

Disagree. He must at some point prove to LR and others that he has the ability to run the time at Via where he cheated. All he needs is that 19:59 5k. When you have pro bono RDs who don't have the time or inclination to uphold the integrity of the sport he will succeed. Whether he is caught or not who knows, but judging from the TT the chances are quite good.

Mike Ross wrote:

Mike is done with running. I doubt he will race again. Will most likely turn to being an awful father who demands his son start on the basketball team

Uzhorod wrote:

Inconvenient Truth wrote:

Don't forget what he said this morning, which was comical if not a sad reflection on the hypocrisy of most things written by LMR:

"I don't wish any ill will on Mikes wife and children. I merely point out to Mike all the psychological scars and bruises he has inflicted on them by lying and cheating."

No ill will? Was that before or after the repetitive cyber-bullying of children and his wife calling by her names and questioning their relationship? No ill will? Is that your idea of goodwill? No need for an answer, those were rhetorical, if not sarcastic questions.

By now, you guys made abundantly clear that you don't care much for Ken and his methods. Point taken, let's move on.

Not entirely true. When he is on his meds, he is good, but lately he is off of them. He has been provided some useful information, but it is when he goes sideways with conspiracy theories, bravado, bullying and children and marital relationships.

But enough said....time to move on and hope that he stays focused and on point here.

Reg Fields wrote:

Uzhorod wrote:

This sounds reasonable.

+1 for this idea. Has anyone done this yet? We don't want to bombard the RD but I'm thinking seeing that doctored GPS file might provide the motivation that he needs for the DQ.

First and last post. Seems like a lot of people saying others should do something but don't do anything themselves. Don't want to get involved in any cyber bullying so don't want to identify myself (Triathleteguru, JA please respect) but here is the DQ RD reply and he has valid points:

RE: Likely cheater in Haddon Township Turkey Trot 5k this past weekend‏

From: Charles Sellers (cisellers@verizon.net)

Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 11:30:54 PM

I am Chuck Sellers the owner of dq Events and yes we timed the Haddon Township Turkey Trot, which is a small time local race for charity, we chip time it with chronotrack timing system (used at NY Marathon) but we do not have a video of the start or the finish. The timing is donated to this race (I make nothing on the timing) so the charity makes more proceeds so we keep the costs of timing low. I am a bit confused in your article it states “we’ll also give him $10,000 if by the end of 2015 he breaks 70:00 in a standard 10-mile course or 20:00 for 5k”, well his time at the Turkey trot

48 MICHAEL ROSSI JENKINTOWN PA 48 M 373 20:25 21:07 6:49 3/40 M4549 35/335 M

doesn ‘t show him breaking 20 minutes for a 5k, so I don’t see the point? Also we have local volunteers on the course at most turns and intersections and no one reported anybody cutting the course.

If this company is concerned about paying this amount to him why don’t they hire someone to put on a go pro and run behind him, that would be proof enough also his time should be based on gun time not chip time like usatf rules for giving awards.

I have his bib number at 373 and his official start time was 9:06:42.03 (time of day) 431 place

His official finish time is 9:27:06.47 for 48th place,

As an athlete myself I am concerned over the integrity of the sport and this does send up ar ed flag but I really have no solid proof to dq him.

I hope the times help you out?

Sincerely,

Chuck Sellers

DQ Events, DQ Timing

609-509-0987

Unfortunately there is no cold hard proof again.

Rossi: 2

LR: 0

It's a sad day.

@ No Name,

you should delete his email and phone number.

NoName wrote: here is the DQ RD reply and he has valid points:

As an athlete myself I am concerned over the integrity of the sport and this does send up ar ed flag but I really have no solid proof to dq him.

That's the bottom line. we think he cheated at this race because he's a cheating douchebag, but there's no hard evidence.

The VALID POINT is that if you cheat, whether there is a money prize at stake or not, you should be DQ'd. It is a simple concept to understand. It devalues the efforts of those who don't cheat. It matters to the person in Rossi's age group who placed 4th instead of 3rd. It is a matter of Integrity, that is why it matters and the difference it makes.

See the section "Why Does It Matter" in this Runner's World article

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Party poooopeeer!

NoName wrote:I have his bib number at 373 and his official start time was 9:06:42.03 (time of day) 431 place

To paraphrase Van Halen:

"Oh man, I think MIke's clock is slow ... I don't feel tardy"

That proves he cheated right there. He posted a BS Nike map.

Yeah, and I'm happy with that. I'd be happier if we found a nice photo or video. I think we are not asking for much to try to get him DQ'd based on the evidence we have so far, but the reality is we're talking about a charity Turkey Trot here, one in which no one complained on race day or caught him in the act. It's a lot more work for this guy to dig into this, time is money. Maybe Rojo should offer him the $10k to DQ Mike and it'll be done I guarantee you. That is a high cost for integrity but hey...

Loofa Dog wrote:

That proves he cheated right there. He posted a BS Nike map.

Loofa Dog wrote:

That proves he cheated right there. He posted a BS Nike map.

Right. Rossi boldly (and hilariously) Tweeted a screen shot showing that he started at 8:59am. Yet the timing company recorded our guy crossing the start at 9:06:42.03.

This solidifies our thinking... He went out there dressed like a walker, started at the back, slowing walking to the start mat and simply walked out of the course. He never set foot on the course again. When 20 min went by he walked near to the finish mat to trigger his time. I'd bet he did try to trigger a sub 20 time but wasn't able to so maybe needed to get closer and try a few more times... hence the tweet "results coming soon", he had no idea if he got it right or not. He was never on the course folks... dismiss that theory, it's too complicated.

"Also we have local volunteers on the course at most turns and intersections and no one reported anybody cutting the course. "

It sounds like no RD of a small race is going to DQ him simply for something suspicious like a difference in gun/chip time. If there is no prize money involved they just don't care. They see it as no harm, no foul.

Next time he runs a local 5K let me know and I will bring 3 HD video cameras with me. We'll just need two others to man them. I know we have at lest two other local guys on here. I'll film the start. We'll have two stationed along the course. And I can drive to the finish and film that, so we'll have four spots along the course on video. And with that Mike couldn't claim that he ran past the very split second that the camera malfunctioned.