You didn’t answer my question. Why do you bother? What do you get out of this sport, if every athlet doing good is a doper?
You miss the point. I don't "get anything out of the sport". I think it is a farce, like most professional sport now. It is all been changed by doping. I don't care about the results but I certainly know what I'm seeing - just like a lot of other cr*p going on in the world. To not see it is to remain a Pollyannish dreamer.
"It has all been changed by doping"? So you think the sport was "clean" 20-30 years ago? Who is the dreamer here?
You miss the point. I don't "get anything out of the sport". I think it is a farce, like most professional sport now. It is all been changed by doping. I don't care about the results but I certainly know what I'm seeing - just like a lot of other cr*p going on in the world. To not see it is to remain a Pollyannish dreamer.
You miss the point. I don't "get anything out of the sport". I think it is a farce, like most professional sport now. It is all been changed by doping. I don't care about the results but I certainly know what I'm seeing - just like a lot of other cr*p going on in the world. To not see it is to remain a Pollyannish dreamer.
"It has all been changed by doping"? So you think the sport was "clean" 20-30 years ago? Who is the dreamer here?
I didn't say that. I have never said it. A purely fanciful assumption on your part. Doping has increasingly become a feature in the sport for over half a century. It has become more and more sophisticated and remains ahead of antidoping. It is in every sport, and some more than others and some countries more than others. But it is certainly at the top. That's how you get to the top.
Can the brojos please add another important feature?
Automatic downvote added for Armstrong and Coevett everytime someone reads the thread? Would save us a lot of unnecessary voting.
They have clearly given us their view on doping, can we discourage them trolling on every thread please.
Only Coevett. I actually 👏 Armstronglivs [ though I don't agree with him] because he is at least being consistent by strongly accusing Jakob of doping. That's all I really wanted from him, consistency and lack of clear bias. He is demonstrating that.
Coevett OTOH......moron. he thinks PEDs are powerful cheat tools, that all the best Africans use them, but then this pure, pale Aryan white kid comes along and destroys them all, and mauls one of the most cherished "PED-enhanced" [ supposedly] records, and yet he's completely clean! Amazing!
The white westerner can destroy alllllll the dirty doped to the gills Africans. If they didn't all cheat he'd be lapping them with ease!
If asked some concrete question, he usually changes the subject, calls you some bad names, runs away. You will not get a serious answer.
Liar soorer back again - under his 4000th handle. Nothing you say is worth discussing.
Yes, I stated a fact: if you are asked some concrete question, you usually change the subject, run away, call the questioner some bad names. No need to discuss it anymore.