Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

LMR wrote:

Nope. That was somebody else and only because he revealed things he shouldn't have.

You guys should concentrate on Rossi and don't worry about what I am doing.

So you are threatening to do something that has already been done for which presumably the consequences have already taken place in the name of preventing bullying?

Yup your consistency checks out, must be you posting this.

Bye.

LMR wrote:

bored troLLer wrote:

I'm pretty sure LMR divulged abingtonrunner's RL name hundreds of pages and several months ago. Correct?

Nope. That was somebody else and only because he revealed things he shouldn't have.

You guys should concentrate on Rossi and don't worry about what I am doing.

^ bully

We were on the right track getting close to finding hard proof that Rossi cheated at the Turkey Trot and it appeals we are getting derailed again.

Ken- if you want to see Rossi get caught cheating it might be best if you take a back seat. Just look at the last page and how you are shifting the focus to you.

Reg Fields wrote:

We were on the right track getting close to finding hard proof that Rossi cheated at the Turkey Trot and it appeals we are getting derailed again.

And somehow my posts are stopping you from looking at the pictures? Is that what you are implying?

Reg Fields wrote:

We were on the right track getting close to finding hard proof that Rossi cheated at the Turkey Trot and it appeals we are getting derailed again.

Ken- if you want to see Rossi get caught cheating it might be best if you take a back seat. Just look at the last page and how you are shifting the focus to you.

Has anyone sat down and figured out the best places to cut the turkey trot is, then done some regression analysis on pace to see if Rossi might have actually cut the course. Sort of what Greg did what th pictures way back, determine the probability of Rossi actually running.

The thing that doesn't sit well with me is the idea that Rossi needed race history so he ran the first 2 5Ks slow.

I think there is a simpler explanation. He never had the ability and just cut the course OR the close by the mat theory with the chip going off.

Ockams Razor and all ;)

LMR wrote:

Reg Fields wrote:

We were on the right track getting close to finding hard proof that Rossi cheated at the Turkey Trot and it appeals we are getting derailed again.

And somehow my posts are stopping you from looking at the pictures? Is that what you are implying?

Ken- All I'm implying is that many people read the thread and you never know who will see the actual smoking gun. This sidetracked conversation has taken all of those Rossi pictures off of the last page and since this is a running website where most people only care about catching Rossi cheating and not Ken vs Mike it makes them less likely to read posts.

Nothing personal, just wish you listened to others advice and kept the posts on here primarily about Mike cheating at races and the other personal Ken vs Mike on Twitter.

I don't think that Mike ran at all. I'm thinking one of the several runners who were contacted would've seen and remembered him if he did. someone with his form would stand out if you passed them in the last half mile and it's only been a few weeks since the race so unlike LVM it's still fresh enough in people's heads. And these other runners would've likely flown by him.

LMR wrote:

Reg Fields wrote:

We were on the right track getting close to finding hard proof that Rossi cheated at the Turkey Trot and it appeals we are getting derailed again.

And somehow my posts are stopping you from looking at the pictures? Is that what you are implying?

^ bully

Reg Fields wrote:

We were on the right track getting close to finding hard proof that Rossi cheated at the Turkey Trot

Nonsense. My too pace bunnies SR1 and SR2, drove all the way to the NJ to cheer me on! They'd be happy, to testify. My esteemed lawyer confirmed that eyewittnesses trump your photoshopped pictures. Just give up allready.

You see, by definition, all of you are actually bullies. Me, Paul, Ross, Cecily and Greg have all been victims of Mike. We are standing up and fight back against the bully.

The rest of you have no legitimate reason to be doing anything against Mike, including trying to get him DQ'd from a race. That is the responsibility of the people who organize the race to catch cheaters. Not yours. Blah, blah, blah, Mike cheated and stole a spot in Boston. It doesn't affect any of you in the least. How did his cheating negatively affect your lives?

It didn't.

But there are a few of us who did nothing but comment on a news story and Mike tried to intimidate us. We have a legitimate reason to stand up to him. And we will and we won't be stopping anytime soon.

LMR wrote:

You see, by definition, all of you are actually bullies. Me, Paul, Ross, Cecily and Greg have all been victims of Mike. We are standing up and fight back against the bully.

The rest of you have no legitimate reason to be doing anything against Mike, including trying to get him DQ'd from a race. That is the responsibility of the people who organize the race to catch cheaters. Not yours. Blah, blah, blah, Mike cheated and stole a spot in Boston. It doesn't affect any of you in the least. How did his cheating negatively affect your lives?

It didn't.

But there are a few of us who did nothing but comment on a news story and Mike tried to intimidate us. We have a legitimate reason to stand up to him. And we will and we won't be stopping anytime soon.

STFU

Don't overdo it

Taway wrote:

Don't overdo it

^ trusted adviser

Drop the sanctimonious BS. You don't even run, plus you are the second most despicable person involved in this whole saga. If anyone shouldn't be posting here, it is you.

LMR wrote:

You see, by definition, all of you are actually bullies. Me, Paul, Ross, Cecily and Greg have all been victims of Mike. We are standing up and fight back against the bully.

The rest of you have no legitimate reason to be doing anything against Mike, including trying to get him DQ'd from a race. That is the responsibility of the people who organize the race to catch cheaters. Not yours. Blah, blah, blah, Mike cheated and stole a spot in Boston. It doesn't affect any of you in the least. How did his cheating negatively affect your lives?

It didn't.

But there are a few of us who did nothing but comment on a news story and Mike tried to intimidate us. We have a legitimate reason to stand up to him. And we will and we won't be stopping anytime soon.

Ken, one of my good friends who I coached qualified for Boston and missed the additional cut by 16 seconds, you don't think she would have been able to run in a race she trained hard for if Mike and everyone else who cheated to get in was DQed. You couldn't care less about the sport of running and are on a running website, think about that for a second.

runningantelope wrote:

Drop the sanctimonious BS. You don't even run, plus you are the second most despicable person involved in this whole saga. If anyone shouldn't be posting here, it is you.

POTD

triathleteguru wrote:

If you do run this, if you run into the Aylmer's or others who might have photos from the Haddon Township Turkey Trot, consider asking them about it. I have only had luck in getting one person provide me photos!

Just did a Google search for 'haddon turkey trot', 'Past 24 hours' and the Grimm's and Schaffner's were there, only one photo posted but they may have more:

45 NORA GRIMM WESTMONT NJ 16 F 617 20:50 20:58 6:46 1/26 F1519 12/408 F

355 BOB GRIMM WESTMONT NJ 52 M 616 29:31 29:38 9:34 18/27 M5054 202/335 M

519 LAURA SCHAFFNER COLLINGSWOOD NJ 16 F 379 33:46 33:59 10:58 22/26 F1519 258/408 F

588 ERIN SCHAFFNER COLLINGSWOOD NJ 26 F 378 35:55 36:09 11:40 67/82 F2529 297/408 F

LMR wrote:

You guys should concentrate on Rossi and don't worry about what I am doing.

This is good advice.

runningantelope wrote:

Drop the sanctimonious BS. You don't even run, plus you are the second most despicable person involved in this whole saga. If anyone shouldn't be posting here, it is you.

For the record LMR, I never said for you to stop posting, but in typical fashion you twist things around and avoid the facts, or change the facts to suit your misguided perceptions and agenda. However, what I did suggest is that you stop picking on and commenting on his children and marriage in this forum. Posts like that are disgusting and I am sure I will get no argument from anyone here on that issue.

If he has done that to your child(ren), you have the option, if not the responsibility, to report it. Specifically, if he has used/posted pictures of your child(ren) that are minors without your permission, as you seem to allege, then you can and should consult an attorney and law enforcement rather than calling his actions bullying and then using that as a justification to comment and surmise about his children and marital relationship status in this forum.

As for bullying and standing up to Mr. Rossi, you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to me and what Mr. Rossi has said to me or attempted to do, but I realize that trying to have a rational conversation with an irrational bully has no merit or upside. As Cheat Lie Repeat pointed out earlier, your earlier post does amount to blackmail and as such I have taken a screenshot of that post (as well as many others) in the event that LRC decides to delete it, and I plan on taking action, as I am not going to allow a bully decide whether I post my name, which does not change the content of your questionable posts.