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***** people keep breaking meme records while ***** athletes break actual records
JAKOB MF INGEBRIGTSEN NEW WORLD RECORD!!!!! 7:54.11
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translucent wrote:
Wise Old Man wrote:
Yes, you may be right. From my USA perspective, the 1500 reins supreme, like being the quarterback for the 49ers or shortstop for the Yankees (forgive me, but you get the point). I recall an interview with Fisher from a year or two back where he said explicitly the reason he’s not a 1500 runner is because he’s not competitive, but if he was that’s what he’d do. You sort of see it with Teare now too. Yes, in east Africa you have absolute heroes like Bekele or Kipchoge where the 1500 was never the focus. I also remember a recent interview with Kipyegon where she was like 1500 gold and the wr are all fine, but she dreams of being a marathon champ like her hero, Eliud, even though you could argue Faith has easily surpassed EK in accomplishments.
In America, the mentality is "Everyone would run the 100m if they could."
In Ethiopia, the mentality is "Everyone would run the marathon if they could."
Funny! Maybe even Kipchoge or Bekele would become Bolt if they could…..but if not, then yes, it’s better to win marathon majors or world xc than a wimpy race like the 1500.
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Wise Old Man wrote:
LarsL11 wrote:
I think this is a very important point. You shouldn't sit and brag about your session, after a while you will start to race your sessions to get anything to brag about.
The other thing that’s loud and clear is that for Jakob, at least, the 1500 is THE most important distance event and all the others are secondary. He may be naturally better at the 5000 or even longer, but he considers himself a 1500 runner first and foremost and that’s really what matters to him. He would clearly trade lots of 5000 golds for 1500 gold and the 1500 wr. Honestly, I think this is true of all distance runners, if you could be a 1500 champ you would be, and if you can’t, then you figure out what else you can do.
This made me think of his brother, Henrik, and an interview he did during the world championship in 2015 while the Bolt mania was at great heights. When asked something along the lines if he agreed that the 100m (where Bolt would set a new WR) was incredibly exciting he said that he thought the 1500m was magnitudes more exciting. The way he said it was so quintessential Ingebrigtsen. He only ran a 3:43.97 that year, so this was before the Ingebrigtsen era, but he still had no problems with saying that "his" distance was more exciting than the greatest athletics show there was. 3x Kenya on the podium that year!
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and you know absolutely nothing about track and field.meanwhile,i know im right,and i know you havent got a clue.im not changing my opinion just to suit you,so get over it,and move on.i already have :)
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LarsL11 wrote:
Wise Old Man wrote:
The other thing that’s loud and clear is that for Jakob, at least, the 1500 is THE most important distance event and all the others are secondary. He may be naturally better at the 5000 or even longer, but he considers himself a 1500 runner first and foremost and that’s really what matters to him. He would clearly trade lots of 5000 golds for 1500 gold and the 1500 wr. Honestly, I think this is true of all distance runners, if you could be a 1500 champ you would be, and if you can’t, then you figure out what else you can do.
This made me think of his brother, Henrik, and an interview he did during the world championship in 2015 while the Bolt mania was at great heights. When asked something along the lines if he agreed that the 100m (where Bolt would set a new WR) was incredibly exciting he said that he thought the 1500m was magnitudes more exciting. The way he said it was so quintessential Ingebrigtsen. He only ran a 3:43.97 that year, so this was before the Ingebrigtsen era, but he still had no problems with saying that "his" distance was more exciting than the greatest athletics show there was. 3x Kenya on the podium that year!
Before the Ingebrigtsen era? Henrik was European Champ in 2012.
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I watched the video again today. It looks like his stride length has increased; which may be part of the faster times. He also looks leaner.
Also, watching his interviews he is very astute as to his strengths and weaknesses vis-a-vis different distances.
He will run 3:27 this season but he is a mile away from 3:26 flat and needs time to get closer.
I think if you asked him to break the 5,000m WR within a month he could do so based on his current fitness and mindset.
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Basically Jakob hit 4:01 with 1600m to go. The extra distance is run ahead of the finish obviously. So about a 3:53 last 1600m is about 3:54.6 last full mile. Crazy
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uvgzjhgt wrote:
LarsL11 wrote:
This made me think of his brother, Henrik, and an interview he did during the world championship in 2015 while the Bolt mania was at great heights. When asked something along the lines if he agreed that the 100m (where Bolt would set a new WR) was incredibly exciting he said that he thought the 1500m was magnitudes more exciting. The way he said it was so quintessential Ingebrigtsen. He only ran a 3:43.97 that year, so this was before the Ingebrigtsen era, but he still had no problems with saying that "his" distance was more exciting than the greatest athletics show there was. 3x Kenya on the podium that year!
Before the Ingebrigtsen era? Henrik was European Champ in 2012.
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Crazy to think he would win most boy state 4x800 titles by himself.
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Not a World Record wrote:
Not a World Record, not recognized by World Athletics.
***** people keep breaking meme records while ***** athletes break actual records
this used to mean something to me, but I've come to lose some respect for World Athletics, the more I keep up with the sport.
It's a world record. I don't care about the credentials of a second rate organization. track fans understand what it is. A distance that has been challenged by all the greats. screw the iaaf
17:54.10
Jakob Ingebrigtsen
Norway
9 June 2023
Paris
[2]
27:58.61
Daniel Komen
Kenya
19 July 1997
Hechtel
38:01.08
Haile Gebrselassie
Ethiopia
31 May 1997
Hengelo
48:03.40 i
Mo Farah
United Kingdom
21 February 2015
Birmingham
58:03.50
Craig Mottram
Australia
10 June 2007
Eugene
68:04.35 i
Kenenisa Bekele
Ethiopia
16 February 2008
Birmingham
78:04.83
Tariku Bekele
Ethiopia
10 June 2007
Eugene
88:06.48 i
Paul Koech
Kenya
16 February 2008
Birmingham
98:06.61 i
Hicham El Guerrouj
Morocco
23 February 2003
Liévin
108:07.07
Matt Tegenkamp
United States
10 June 2007
Eugene
118:07.39 i
Eliud Kipchoge
Kenya
18 February 2012
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EvilRunner wrote:
jeff tallon wrote:
yes,hes a highly chemically enhanced god.i didnt believe his performances as a 17 year old,and i dont believe them now.teenagers cant run that fast without a lot of chemical help.they dont have the physiology to do it.if they could,east germans,russians,chinese and genuine 17 year old ethiopians and kenyans would have done it long before.also his win at all costs mentality screams doper to me.
he started breaking records when he was 10. so you are saying he started chipping at 10? you are an idiot
Age group records mean nothing. A lot of youngsters with records don't go on to achieve anything as adults. But at some point in his career he began doping and still does. An incredibly talented athlete who dopes. That's how he runs 7.54.
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Pretty sure KaareV knows quite a lot about track and field.
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Jakob beast wrote:
Pretty sure KaareV knows quite a lot about track and field.
But very little about doping. He prefers not to think about it.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
Jakob beast wrote:
Pretty sure KaareV knows quite a lot about track and field.
But very little about doping. He prefers not to think about it.
If doping is all you think about, like it seems, why do you bother follow this sport? Maybe badminton is more your thing? Or backgammon?
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The observing northman wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
But very little about doping. He prefers not to think about it.
If doping is all you think about, like it seems, why do you bother follow this sport? Maybe badminton is more your thing? Or backgammon?
There will be doping in those sports, too. But you prefer to hold on to your dreams in which your heroes don't know anything about doping.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
The observing northman wrote:
If doping is all you think about, like it seems, why do you bother follow this sport? Maybe badminton is more your thing? Or backgammon?
There will be doping in those sports, too. But you prefer to hold on to your dreams in which your heroes don't know anything about doping.
You didn’t answer my question. Why do you bother? What do you get out of this sport, if every athlet doing good is a doper?
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The observing northman wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
There will be doping in those sports, too. But you prefer to hold on to your dreams in which your heroes don't know anything about doping.
You didn’t answer my question. Why do you bother? What do you get out of this sport, if every athlet doing good is a doper?
You miss the point. I don't "get anything out of the sport". I think it is a farce, like most professional sport now. It is all been changed by doping. I don't care about the results but I certainly know what I'm seeing - just like a lot of other cr*p going on in the world. To not see it is to remain a Pollyannish dreamer.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
You miss the point. I don't "get anything out of the sport". I think it is a farce, like most professional sport now. It is all been changed by doping. I don't care about the results but I certainly know what I'm seeing - just like a lot of other cr*p going on in the world. To not see it is to remain a Pollyannish dreamer.
So you basically hate-watch?
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