Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

SaraB wrote: Also, if you think 65.97% isn't a good time then you're still pretty race snobby

That's not even a D+. Maybe I'm an academic snob too though.

I'm with SaraB on Finisher Medal being Kennish. I reread the pages around 724; maybe Finisher Medal isn't Ken, but it's still possible. What better way to convince people you're not Ken than to degrade him?

1. He has a similar temper, then calms down and becomes civil. Curses in similar phrases/typing.

2. He's a bonafide Google expert extraordinaire on any subject he looks up (law, running, IP address locations).

3. Takes credit for things that happened (thread restored, making Ken disappear) with which he probably had little to do.

4. Conspiracy theories like Ken (Mike MADE UP A 5K!)

5. He appeared about the time LMR disappeared.

6. There's absolutely NO WAY Ken just left the thread. He's obviously still reading it (taunting Mike today about his 5k on his Twitter feed) and I'm sure still posting. If Finisher Medal isn't Ken, someone else here is.

It isn't snobby. Mike should be able to go under 20 if he is a 3:11 marathoner, even if he was off a bit for injury or what not I would still expect a 20:00 high or 21:00 low. The fact of the matter he thinks he did well, for what was basically an aerobic run of 3.1 miles.

SaraB wrote:

elephino wrote:

He's been just as hateful toward Ken, so he's probably not Ken, but you are right, he's very Ken-like in his irrational hatred and wild theories.

I'd be pretty shocked if Ken didn't have multiple accounts, he needs someone to argue with other than the trolls to to keep his theories and Rossi bashing going. He can't stop it just like Rossi can't stop responding. Find the people that Ken argues with the most who also hate Rossi and if Ken has multiple accounts you can bet that's him. I wonder if he's catfishing Mike too. Would be great if Max and Nev got involved.[/quote]

If you're thinking that Finisher Medal is Ken and was hateful about Ken to throw us off the scent, you're giving Ken way too much credit. I challenge you to find anything Ken has said or done that shows any type of cleverness, or strategy, or self-awareness.

My wife's pb is 3:24 and she hasn't run slower than 20min in a 5k since her 2nd year of running. Plus I would consider her a pure distance runner, not a speedster. Hell, she even broke 20 last week on her 5k warm-up to the gym, and she's 6 months pregnant. My point is Mike's horrendous 5k time is only horrendous because he claims to have run 3:11.

Loofa Dog wrote:

SaraB wrote:

Reel what in. Why does it matter to you who I think those two people are and whether I'm ignoring them or not? You're making the thread about this, not me. Also, if you think 65.97% isn't a good time then you're still pretty race snobby

It isn't snobby. Mike should be able to go under 20 if he is a 3:11 marathoner, even if he was off a bit for injury or what not I would still expect a 20:00 high or 21:00 low. The fact of the matter he thinks he did well, for what was basically an aerobic run of 3.1 miles.

rexthebex wrote:

SaraB wrote: Also, if you think 65.97% isn't a good time then you're still pretty race snobby

That's not even a D+. Maybe I'm an academic snob too though.

Or are you really claiming that 2/3 of students get a D+ or worse?

Sorry to be long winded, but this is my last post on this thread. I know this is a victory for many of you. Congrats.

1. He has a similar temper, then calms down and becomes civil. Curses in similar phrases/typing.

It's called entertainment/trolling (almost all towards Mike and Ken only). How can you guys not comprehend this?

2. He's a bonafide Google expert extraordinaire on any subject he looks up (law, running, IP address locations).

Don't be mad that I am a (non-practicing) patent attorney. There was a discussion about the contracts angle to the offer and I talked about that. I think that it is strange that you think I'm googling this stuff yet can't point to any major flaws in any of my informal legal analysis.

Also, unlike Mike or Ken, I can run. Pretty fast too. But apparently that makes me a snob.

Finally, I am the one who ridiculed Ken for lying and saying he geolocated someone using an IP on Wiki . . . it's not possible. So you don't make any sense.

3. Takes credit for things that happened (thread restored, making Ken disappear) with which he probably had little to do.

I did get the thread restored when Wejo put up his rangers thread. He didn't realize it had been taken down.

Also, did you see Ken posting after I exposed his character? If so, well then I failed.

4. Conspiracy theories like Ken (Mike MADE UP A 5K!)

All tongue in cheek to elicit a bizarre twitter craze from Mike. Beside, is it really such a stretch to think he would do such a thing? What other crazy conspiracies did I put forth?

5. He appeared about the time LMR disappeared.

I posted plenty prior to registration being required. Especially under the "I am Rossi" name. People got what I was trying to do back then.

BTW, I was the one who also told them to boot Ken but instead they asked me my opinion on requiring registration. I said it was a good idea but still wanted Ken gone. That is when I decided I would confront him so he'd leave.

6. There's absolutely NO WAY Ken just left the thread. He's obviously still reading it (taunting Mike today about his 5k on his Twitter feed) and I'm sure still posting. If Finisher Medal isn't Ken, someone else here is.

Screw Ken.

Oh, and if you don't believe me on #5, here ya go:

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July 28

Thanks for writing.

I'm wondering if we should shut the thread or make it so only

registered users can posts. I think the poster you are referencing is

saying they weren't trying to reveal anything personally about Mike

they were just trying to show the IP edit was done by him.

Do you think we should shut the thread? There are like 80 posts in the

last few hours. I can't believe it has that much interest.

-Weldon

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July 28

Thank you Weldon.

I for one would prefer there to be registered users only on this thread. I saw your post and I appreciate you asking others to keep families out of this. I think that there are some legit posters who are actually doing some good things with respect to his Rossi's cheating.

However, if the thread is locked for registered users only, then I would very much hope tat "LMR" is not allowed to post here anymore. He previously used the registered name "LoserMikeRossi", and he has self-identified as Kenneth Stillman. Here are just a couple of reasons why I think he needs to be banned:

He did in fact publish intimate knowledge of Mike's wife.

With respect to "LMR" defending himself, I am not sure of which post you are referring to, but I do understand that he may have been trying to say the source of the wiki edit was Mike.

The part that bothered me was that he mentioned it may have been posted from the train station where Mike's wife goes to commute to her job, and named her place of work. However, there is no way that the information he was describing could have been narrowed down that precisely with the IP address GregTR found from the Wiki edit.

GregTR (who is an IT specialist I believe) said that the IP corresponded to a place near where Mike lives (a multi-mile radius), but not exactly where. Only somebody with personal knowledge of the wife's commuting route could say for certain that is was at that train station. GregTR can speak to this in more detail, but the poster LMR later showed he had no understanding of internet protocols.

In other words, I believe that the poster LMR had intimate knowledge of a private person's movements and published them. He attempted to backtrack by later saying it was publicly accessible, but didn't realize this was not possible.

Other issues related to this poster have disturbed the LR community.

Most importantly, LMR has become increasingly unstable and obsessed with Mike himself. He admits to not caring about running, has personally received a cease & desist letter from Mike's attorney for trying to unfairly compete with Mike's business, and went on to say some pretty offensive things about Nazis etc. Gatorade & Vodka and others can testify to this.

Sorry for being long-winded. I appreciate your concern and your responsiveness on this issue, and just want to say I really enjoy LR.

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July 29

Hi Weldon,

Just wanted to follow up and let you know that I've read the posts since you reached out to the group yesterday. After reading pages 667 and on, I think the poster "LMR" has made it clear he did not obtain that personal information about Mike's family using easily accessible means. GregTR explained why. I think that a lot of the other regular posters have echoed the sentiment that he is mentally unstable and getting worse.

Anyways, I just wanted to thank you for looking at the situation and hopefully there can be something done to prevent this from progressing. Honestly, I'd rather see the thread locked rather than watch this person spiral out of control, but hopefully it won't come to that.

Regardless, I'm going to take a break from reading this thread for an extended period of time. I hope Rossi take you up on your offer and fails miserably.

Looking forward to the upcoming World's coverage btw.

Cheers.

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I am pretty much done with this. I get it. Some of you just don't want me here. Sorry you took things seriously.

Best of luck everybody.

That is steenkin' awesome. She'll probably give birth during a track rest interval. 'Here hold this kid a minute, I have a 400 to finish.'

Trollminator wrote:

My wife's pb is 3:24 and she hasn't run slower than 20min in a 5k since her 2nd year of running. Plus I would consider her a pure distance runner, not a speedster. Hell, she even broke 20 last week on her 5k warm-up to the gym, and she's 6 months pregnant.

My point is Mike's horrendous 5k time is only horrendous because he claims to have run 3:11.

elephino wrote:

rexthebex wrote:

That's not even a D+. Maybe I'm an academic snob too though.

You're just joking in pretending to not know the difference between a percentage of the total and a percentile, right?

Or are you really claiming that 2/3 of students get a D+ or worse?

In this context, 65.97% (for a 22:00 5k) is an age grade, not a percentile. If I'm not mistaken, it means (roughly speaking) that he would've run 65.97% as fast as the world record holder in his age/gender division, for the same distance.

So 65% doesn't mean that you ran faster than 65% of other runners (in your division). It means you ran 65% as fast as the world record holder. Roughly speaking, 60% means you can win a local race, 70% means you can hold your own in your region, 80% means you can compete nationally and 90% means you are world class.

Ken also goes on and on and on as per ^^. I didn't read most of it. If you ever watch Catfish you'll soon learn that it doesn't really take a brain surgeon to maintain multiple accounts. He's probably slipped up a number of times but I can't be arsed to read through the entire thing. Even if he's not Ken he has serious issues and is worth ignoring.

We know that Rossi is no where near a 3:11. I judge him by the standards of the 3:30/3:40 marathon runner that he is. His 5k time is not bad for a 3:30/40 marathon running making a comeback.

I understand the difference. Just fun to compare Mike's running to a D+ college student.

Q; What do you call a guy with a D+ average in college?

A: a wedding DJ.

Thanks folks, I'll be here all night.

This thread is hilarious. Mike either cheated or cut it by accident

Barb McKeever doesn't seem to understand the high end of our sport. And does Bart Yasso have Alzheimers? I Sure hope not but Something's not all there. I can't for the life of me figure out what's wrong

rojo wrote:

iiagdtr wrote:

23:51

https://www.pretzelcitysports.com/userfiles/file/15%20NEWTOWN%20RACE%20FOR%20RECOVERY%20RES.pdf

A great find. For those of you not reading every post, this poster found Rossi under the name Mike Rossi in the results for the Brain Injury Challenge Run for Recovery 5k on 10/24/15 in 15 Newtown, PA .

His time was 23:51.

That's 3:21:16 marathon pace. Must have just been relaxing.

;)[/quote]

The McMillian calculator actually says that it translates into a 3:52:24 marathon pace.

No, Rojo means that the actual pace that Mike Ross ran for that 5K would have netted him a 3:21 marathon had he been able to maintain it for another 23.1 miles.

You are thinking of equivalents.

SaraB wrote:

Ken also goes on and on and on as per ^^. I didn't read most of it. If you ever watch Catfish you'll soon learn that it doesn't really take a brain surgeon to maintain multiple accounts. He's probably slipped up a number of times but I can't be arsed to read through the entire thing. Even if he's not Ken he has serious issues and is worth ignoring.

I think if you actually took the time to read the post you'd see his emails with Weldon and probably realize you look pretty silly claiming he is Ken.

I think he was genuinely concerned with the direction the thread was going in. That was around the time we had to start using our registered names.

I'm not a fan of his tactics, but FM was entertaining.

It seems like you just want to throw people under the bus without actually doing your homework. Glad to have you back SaraB.

I had some extra caffeine this morning, I am certain many more would have found it in short order. Very entertaining Monday indeed with more to come next week.

rojo wrote:

A great find. For those of you not reading every post, this poster found Rossi under the name Mike Rossi in the results for the Brain Injury Challenge Run for Recovery 5k on 10/24/15 in 15 Newtown, PA .

His time was 23:51.

That's 3:21:16 marathon pace. Must have just been relaxing.

Tech guy wrote:

So 65% doesn't mean that you ran faster than 65% of other runners (in your division). It means you ran 65% as fast as the world record holder. Roughly speaking, 60% means you can win a local race, 70% means you can hold your own in your region, 80% means you can compete nationally and 90% means you are world class.

Hmm. I was wrong. I thought that was a percentile.

SaraB wrote:

We know that Rossi is no where near a 3:11. I judge him by the standards of the 3:30/3:40 marathon runner that he is. His 5k time is not bad for a 3:30/40 marathon running making a comeback.

I'm the same age as Rossi with a marathon PR of 3:24. I sure wouldn't be bragging about a 7:41/mile 5k.