Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

bored troller wrote:

once again I remind you, troiier isn't a word.

I was here first and I can post it either troller or troLLer because I'm not forced to use uppercase "i" in my handle.

Move along now.

You're right, "troiier" isn't a word, post using any handle you like, I'm the original 'bored troller' and you're the idiot who seems to know about throwing in the uppercase "troiier" diversion, I wonder why?

Anyway, anyone reading this thread will know you're not the real 'bored troller' by the crap you write, I'm much more sophisticated.

Move along now and get over it.

Wu Ming wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

Apparently the guy was able to prove he actually did indeed run the race.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-10/18/c_134724784.htm?bral-view-to-sport-by-dave-hunter.html

LRCers, can you figure out he showed he ran it?

This article from Xinhua gives the details on the evidence the runner used to demonstrate that he had actually run the race.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-10/15/c_134716988.htm

After reading that 2nd article; I think the case is closed. I'm not looking into this.

Could you start a heavily moderated thread that only discusses the $100k challenge? Without any other discussion about the original story?

Is LRC worried? IMO, LRC forgot about the easy gains from 2sec/min/pound above optimal.

I will have to respectfully disagree on the charity bib. I think what happened at Via and him running Run2Respond show that money is more important than, well, everything in our sport. If Cheater Mike raised $10k for children's brain cancer you don't think he'd get a charity bib? He would and be hailed a hero.Now on the Ironman thing, yes, he should encouraged to take that on. Imagine the hero story NBC could do on him, all that adversity and all those haters. Only question is whether or not there is any star big and bright and bad enough to play him in the movie? And most importantly, how many heroic adjectives can you fit in a movie title?

finisher medal wrote:

You are right. The only good thing to come of this (hopefully) will be chipped qualifiers.

He will never get a charity bib... LR will shut that down.

I hate to say it but he probably would make a good fit for ironman. Maybe he will need to buy a sea doo and an ebike in addition to his car.

elephino wrote:

SmartRunnr wrote:

The photos are quite clear too, even if the shirt looks on one a bit darker than on others. That is simply a function of lighting and wetness.

Then I guess I don't know what photos you were talking about. Can you link them?

Mike never publicly claimed to be in any other photos other than the start and finish. In fact, when defending himself he claimed that the lack of photos was common, not that he had more photos. He never provided photos to Brojos to get money. And funny that the shirt changed colors between photos but the shorts remained black in both.

Actually, he did claim to have more photos and would (I'm paraphrasing) look forward to the time when he releases them and clears his name.

This was in a facebook group (I think Sarah has the screenshots of it).

Looks like our hero tweeted a shoutout to the OP who started this thread. Mike's as clever as he is fast. He picked the right brand of vodka, though. The makers have been accused of playing a little fast and loose with the truth, too.

No shortcuts wrote:

Looks like our hero tweeted a shoutout to the OP who started this thread. Mike's as clever as he is fast. He picked the right brand of vodka, though. The makers have been accused of playing a little fast and loose with the truth, too.

It isn't that first time he has called someone out on Twitter. I made a comment about his shoes and he posted a closet picture that showed three pairs.

He reads this thread, probably several times a day.

Multivitamin wrote:

He should probably move on to Ironman. They have even more logos and merchandise and clothing than the BAA does, so that's a better choice anyway.

He's definitely got the right personality for the worst kind of one-and-done-get-the-mdot-tattoo finisher. If he gets it in his head that he simply must race Kona though, he's in for a rude awakening. Ironman doesn't screw around when it comes to DQs for cutting the course. Just ask Julie Miller.

SmartRunnr your posts are laughable. Are you part Russian as you are helping give me a history lesson as to what it was like to live in Stalin's russia where they just re-wrote history and made stuff up.

The problem for your and Rossi is there are no photos. None. That's why this whole thing took a life of it's own. He's the only finisher not spotted out in the middle of the course.

People realized a media hound had a massive PB yet was quite about it and didn't get spotted on the course.

The problem for Rossi is there have been ZERO witnesses putting him out on the course. At every marathon I ran, I'd have a family member or friend who saw me on the course.

So you combine the fact that a) he wasn't capture in a single photo on the course and b) there are no witnesses or GPS data putting him on the course with the fact that c) he was physiologically incapable of running a 3:11:45 marathon in 2014 based on his training and it's 100% clear he didn't run it.

Am I worried? Not at all. I should have made it a million dollar challenge. He wasn't even in 3:30 shape last year. To run 3:11:45 would take a monumental improvement.

Yes, maybe a beginning runner could improve 20 minutes in a year but Mike had been running for a couple of years and all of his performances lined up on the equivalency charts so I felt pretty confident he wasn't going to improve by a massive amount. I figured he'd sort of plateaud. 20 minutes is more than 45 seconds per mile. Non runners may not understand how much that is for someone who has been running a well. That's 11+ seconds per lap on a track or nearly 3 seconds per 100 meters.

But if I made it a million dollar challenge, the incentive to dope would be massive and maybe with EPO and a doubling of mileage he could do it but i imagine someone that age would likely get hurt trying to do it.

So no, I'm not worried at all.

PS. I'm going to merge this thread with the original one at 5 pm today as we don't need two threads on Rossi. Someone wants a thread dedicated just to the challenge, but isn't that what the other thread is for? I'd consider it but don't know what that thread would have on it. There are zero updates as he never races.

Do we need a 2nd thread? I don't think so.

Stepping back, the personality in play here really fascinates me. If most of you are like me, there's a bunch of web sites you check out on a regular basis, so you stop by here once or twice a day to take a look at the train wreck, maybe add a post. In my case, a comment sometimes leads me over to Twitter because I can't believe Mike actually did what someone said (like posting a picture with Gatorade and Vodka).

But Mike just perplexes me. Boston really seems to be an obsession with him. He was so compelled to get in that he cheated to do so, something that would have completely destroyed any sense of accomplishment for most people. Then he made that ridiculous video, trying to turn act of cheating into some kind of heroic feat, as if tens of thousands of people don't do the exact same thing every year. He can't seem to take a picture anywhere without some piece of Boston gear on. Going to an football game? Wear a BAA hat. Going pumpkin picking? Wear a BAA pullover. Going golfing? Of course wear BAA stuff.

Now, he follows this thread and goes out of his way to tweet in response to posts in this thread. Who does that? Hell, yesterday's tweet was clearly from the parking lot of the Eagles game and yet he took the time to take a pic related to this? I guess he imagines that we're sitting here raging in frustration when in fact we're laughing at what an absolute clown this guy is.

dgunthert wrote:

Multivitamin wrote:

He should probably move on to Ironman. They have even more logos and merchandise and clothing than the BAA does, so that's a better choice anyway.

He's definitely got the right personality for the worst kind of one-and-done-get-the-mdot-tattoo finisher. If he gets it in his head that he simply must race Kona though, he's in for a rude awakening. Ironman doesn't screw around when it comes to DQs for cutting the course. Just ask Julie Miller.

You mean the WTC has more balls than does Bart Yasso or Barb McKeever? Shocker.

dgunthert wrote:

But Mike just perplexes me. Boston really seems to be an obsession with him. He was so compelled to get in that he cheated to do so, something that would have completely destroyed any sense of accomplishment for most people. Then he made that ridiculous video, trying to turn act of cheating into some kind of heroic feat, as if tens of thousands of people don't do the exact same thing every year. He can't seem to take a picture anywhere without some piece of Boston gear on. Going to an football game? Wear a BAA hat. Going pumpkin picking? Wear a BAA pullover. Going golfing? Of course wear BAA stuff.

I don't always check this thread, but I have found it entertaining. I do not think Rossi is "perplexing" at all. He stays true to his mental illness which makes him a sad pathetic little man. If he wasn't otherwise so offensive I think most people would pity him. Which is fortunate for this thread. It is because he is such an all around ugly human being that it keeps people interested.

In any event, I love that he is so heavily invested in his lie and has decided the way out is to stick to the lie, repeat it and promote it. It's fantastic stuff. I know people find it maddening, but I just don't get that. When the truth is so obvious, having someone keep telling the same lie over and over, it's just more embarrassing each time. I hope he tells that lie until the day he dies, since he diminishes himself every time he does. Who could ask for more? The way out from a lie is easy, it just takes a bit of courage, tell the truth, and then you're free. Fortunately, sad little Mikey has no courage, so, he will continue to be that tiny little dog that yaps and yaps and yaps, intimidating no one, entertaining everyone. 3:11? Oh yeah, sure you did Mikey, sure you did.

You nailed it!

This!

He is a narcissist.... Everything is about him. He has to be hard for him not to have social media and such. For him closing his YouTube and blog were probably pretty painful to do. He has closed his Twitter but never for more then a few weeks. Some day though we will tire of this and his story will be over, and he will have to live with his cheating act , viral letter, his cheating outed and his roasting the running community has given him. The lady meteorologist he got into a tiff with said it best.... this whole experience will wear on him. I would guess that is why he doesn't have the energy and passion for marathons he once had. I really do pitty him. He needs help and is too invested in his lie to know it.

dgunthert wrote:

Now, he follows this thread and goes out of his way to tweet in response to posts in this thread. Who does that? Hell, yesterday's tweet was clearly from the parking lot of the Eagles game and yet he took the time to take a pic related to this? I guess he imagines that we're sitting here raging in frustration when in fact we're laughing at what an absolute clown this guy is.

That's exactly it. For Mike the pinnacle of the sport is getting to slog through something called the Boston Marathon, whether it's in 3:11 or 6 hours.

His only real out is to go with the mental illness defense, but I think he is a psychopath and there is no good ending for him and definitely not for those in his sphere. He'd have to realize and admit what he has done, in fact, knows what he has done. He gives no indication he has any idea that everyone outside his narrow, ignorant realm knows exactly what he has done. He is a monster in Boston clothing. We know you are reading this Mike. We know what you have done. The only fool here is Cheater Mike Rossi,

iiagdtr wrote:

We know you are reading this Mike. We know what you have done. The only fool here is Cheater Mike Rossi,

Nah he is just a slow loser who couldn't make time like a man and took the coward's way out.

If he was in the military he'd be a deserter no doubt.