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Subway Surfers wrote:
Can someone tell please tell me how many times USADA tested her last year? I'm getting nothing.
Nothing? That's odd. When I look her up on the USADA's Athlete Test History page, it lists one test for her for 2019. So they tested her at least once. (She may have had other tests that do not show up on that page, depending on where the tests were performed, and who requested them.)
https://www.usada.org/news/athlete-test-history/Subway Surfers wrote:
YMMV wrote:
Clean WR?
She was calm as could be the final laps. Insane composure while Koko was writhing.
How do you know she is clean? I've never heard of her and suddenly she is running Genzebe times. The first thing I thought is she has gone, "Everyone else is doping, I want my piece of glory."
She's been reading LetsRun.
Eliud wrote:
rojo wrote:
There is a limit to what people can run
#nohumanislimited
He was referring to non East-Africans. East Africans are more than human, or at least not a regular part of Homo Sapiens (according to LetsRun).
Every young East African's death at 22 proves it, along with a doping bust of their teammate the next day that we cannot speak of.
rojo wrote:
The Vermonster wrote:
Elle has just scratched the surface with this race.
I loved all aspects of your post but this.
No. She's pretty much dug deep in the surface. There is a limit to what people can run and unless you think it's 3:50, she's unlikely to run much faster. Remember, people like Wheating, Gregson, etc ran huge pbs to hit 3:30 in the men's 1500 and never came close to it again. You don't PR by a ton to run 330 and then PR by a ton again and run 325.
But given her background, given her performance at 5th avenue, I do think she'll be able to replicate this again but people don't continue to PR and PR and PR once they reach an elite level of training.
Look at Jenny Simpson. She ran 3:59.9 in 2009 but didn't break 4:00 again until 2014 (although she did win a world title in the interim). Simpson's PR isn't way faster than 3:59 - it's 3:57.22.
We don't know what the limits are. Hence your initial post. You were very surprised. Women can run under 3.50 for 1500, why would you doubt that?
Funny stats for Purrier. She is nowhere in the NCAA all time top 10 ranking in the 800/1500/3000/5000
However, she is ranked 2nd in the mile
Is she a true mile specialist? :)
2:14 first 800, 2:02 2nd 800?
Leopardly wrote:
Elle: a few steps from the finish, clock reads 4:14.
Commentator: the meet record 4:19 might be in danger!!
The commentator also said something similar when she hit the final straight-away around 4:08 or so & my first thought was "it is not going to take her 11 seconds to run 50 meters, she's going to be way under."
grandmastersdreamer: The leader was 2:10+ (just my eye and the tv coverage clock) so I don't think Purrier was 2:14 but it was an impressive negative split none-the-less. I thought Osika was poised to run low-mid 20's after her 4:32 solo a week ago so I was interested in the halfway split that chased her off the lead pack.
Unbelievable run.
Say it with me folks.........
CLEAN WORLD RECORD
Adol C wrote:
Unbelievable run.
Say it with me folks.........
CLEAN WORLD RECORD
Are the drug test results in?
Also, I heard there were trampolines in her shoes.
No. Looks like 2:09/2:07. Watch the race.
Adol C wrote:
Unbelievable run.
Say it with me folks.........
CLEAN WORLD RECORD
Go trolling somewhere else, she cearly is juiced to the gills. Didn't even breathe right after she finished, like she just came back from a casual jog. Typical east-african-WR-holder-syndrome.
Flats Domino wrote:
spikes? wrote:
it's not clear that she was wearing spikes. in the pictures, it looks like she was wearing some version of NB 5280 racing flat.
It looks like a prototype spike. Look closely at how thick the sole is; it clearly has foam in there and maybe a plate. The colorway is the same as the 2019 spike, which doesn’t make sense if they simply added a spike plate onto the 5280.
(pssssst.....all spikes have foam and a plate. )
rojo wrote:
The Vermonster wrote:
Elle has just scratched the surface with this race.
I loved all aspects of your post but this.
No. She's pretty much dug deep in the surface. There is a limit to what people can run and unless you think it's 3:50, she's unlikely to run much faster. Remember, people like Wheating, Gregson, etc ran huge pbs to hit 3:30 in the men's 1500 and never came close to it again. You don't PR by a ton to run 330 and then PR by a ton again and run 325.
But given her background, given her performance at 5th avenue, I do think she'll be able to replicate this again but people don't continue to PR and PR and PR once they reach an elite level of training.
Look at Jenny Simpson. She ran 3:59.9 in 2009 but didn't break 4:00 again until 2014 (although she did win a world title in the interim). Simpson's PR isn't way faster than 3:59 - it's 3:57.22.
You mean like how El G went from 3:53 to 3:48 (5 seconds) and then 3:48 to 3:44 (4 seconds)?
PrZ wrote:
Female Chris wrote:
Looks liked she's naturally lean out a bit since her college days which is helping her performance. She is basically the Chris Solinsky of female runners.
You know you’re on the letsrun message boards when someone runs the 2nd fastest indoor mile ever, and people don’t even hesitate to comment on her appearance and body type.
It's a fact. She is noticeably leaner than her college days. I don't get what is so hard to understand about this in a sport where body weight and percent body fat matter a lot.
Bekele was straight up fat for years and it resulted in wildly inconsistent performances in the marathon. He got serious about his diet and training leading up to Berlin, showed up to the start line noticeably leaner and nearly pops off a world record. It's not rocket science.
nepsta wrote:
jhlkjhlkjhjlkhkl wrote:
No she switched coaches almost immediately after graduation and has been training with New Balance Boston with Mark Coogan since then. Just did a training camp in Flagstaff I think? from social media. Her college coach has not been involved in almost 2 years, she's 10 seconds faster since the coaching change
Jeez what an ignorant post. Mark has done a great job with Ellie and she was a badass in that race. Also, Hop (at UNH) did a fantastic job with her and is one of the most underrated coaches in the NCAA
Purrier is obviously an incredible talent. She made the coaches look good at UNH, not the other way around. For someone who is talented enough to shatter an American record a couple years out of college, she should have been a lot more successful in the NCAA.
Daniel Komen approves this performance wrote:
Adol C wrote:
Unbelievable run.
Say it with me folks.........
CLEAN WORLD RECORD
Go trolling somewhere else, she cearly is juiced to the gills. Didn't even breathe right after she finished, like she just came back from a casual jog. Typical east-african-WR-holder-syndrome.
But you said EPO makes runners breathe more, not less. Make your mind up SuperTroll.
Adol C wrote:
Unbelievable run.
Say it with me folks.........
CLEAN WORLD RECORD
CLEAN WR = WHITE WR, right?
Your name is Adol C ?? I think you made an error.
Fixed: Adolph H.
Seriously mate? wrote:
PrZ wrote:
You know you’re on the letsrun message boards when someone runs the 2nd fastest indoor mile ever, and people don’t even hesitate to comment on her appearance and body type.
It's a fact. She is noticeably leaner than her college days. I don't get what is so hard to understand about this in a sport where body weight and percent body fat matter a lot.
Bekele was straight up fat for years and it resulted in wildly inconsistent performances in the marathon. He got serious about his diet and training leading up to Berlin, showed up to the start line noticeably leaner and nearly pops off a world record. It's not rocket science.
Just rocket fuel?
Nervous Nelly wrote:
rojo wrote:
I loved all aspects of your post but this.
No. She's pretty much dug deep in the surface. There is a limit to what people can run and unless you think it's 3:50, she's unlikely to run much faster. Remember, people like Wheating, Gregson, etc ran huge pbs to hit 3:30 in the men's 1500 and never came close to it again. You don't PR by a ton to run 330 and then PR by a ton again and run 325.
But given her background, given her performance at 5th avenue, I do think she'll be able to replicate this again but people don't continue to PR and PR and PR once they reach an elite level of training.
Look at Jenny Simpson. She ran 3:59.9 in 2009 but didn't break 4:00 again until 2014 (although she did win a world title in the interim). Simpson's PR isn't way faster than 3:59 - it's 3:57.22.
You mean like how El G went from 3:53 to 3:48 (5 seconds) and then 3:48 to 3:44 (4 seconds)?
One is El G.... one is.... Elle P....
Big difference.
I think it was a mistake for Koko to try to run away from the field like this on an indoor track. I don't know if Koko could have won, but if the pace were a second or two slower she could have made it a lot harder for Purrier to pass in the final 100m. Granted, it took a historic performance to do so. But it seemed like Koko really died at the end of the race. Slowing at the end like that was probably not a big deal from a time standpoint, but for placing in an indoor track race it's probably the opposite of what you want to be doing.