Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

I think anything Mikes says is suspect along these lines. That boy sure loves the attention. Anyone go to school with him other than the trolls? Was he a class cut-up?

somebloke wrote:

Yeah, right.

20:4x is very unlikely. So far off from what he is capable.

Let's play 'what if' for a second and assume that time is real. Two weeks after injury? I predict another injury in 3...2...1...

Boulder Ironman is this weekend, and If I see Bart Yasso (I hear he is in Colorado Springs), I would like to come up to him and ask him face to face why he couldn't get Barb McKeever to pull the DQ on Mr. Mike Rossi. It's worth a shot.

If he really ran a 20:47, that of course still wouldn't even suggest he's capable of a 3:11. Heck, even if he managed to get down to 18-19min somehow in the next 2-3 years, I would be still be suspicious of a 3:11 in future for him when you consider that he is relatively new to running. usually it takes years of consistent training to be able to have a marathon PR be an equivalent performance (using Daniels or McMillan) to a shorter distance (e.g. 5K) PR. When you plot PR performances at 5K through marathon on a chart for newer runners (and especially low MPW runners like Mike Rossi)

you're likely to see an upward slope on an equivalent performances chart. Makes sense that Rossi might slog through a 5K in 22mins which would suggest he COULD maybe run a marathon in 3:27-3:30 AFTER spending some time putting in higher mileage for an extended period.

I forgot the LetsRun deal (and am too lazy on my cell phone to look it up), but if Mike Rossi enters a USATF-certified 5K road race in the next year and runs under 20:00, he gets how much $$$$$? Is it $10,000?

Yes, 10k, but he has to run it by the end of 2015. He has five months to do something that was done by 161 high school girls in the Pennsylvania state championships last fall.

He has no chance.

[quote]iiagdtr wrote:

Guess mine was a little too obtuse as well. But no, I do not think you are Mike. This world, perhaps the universe itself cannot contain the grandiose egos of two Mikes.

Two Mikes! Wow, that would be amazing. They could pace each other to world record times...They could look up each others IP addresses...and just imagine the tunes they could spin at a bar mitzvah!

There would be negative WR times because they will have finished the race before it started.

Northeastrunner wrote:

[quote]iiagdtr wrote:

Guess mine was a little too obtuse as well. But no, I do not think you are Mike. This world, perhaps the universe itself cannot contain the grandiose egos of two Mikes.

Two Mikes! Wow, that would be amazing. They could pace each other to world record times...They could look up each others IP addresses...and just imagine the tunes they could spin at a bar mitzvah!

Others have said it before, the 10k for breaking 20min is cake. I think Mike tries to go for it given he's already tried to make everyone think he was injured. If he comes up short then he has his excuses. It's pretty pathetic isn't it? A grown man has to be coaxed by a running site to give us a hint of honesty. My guess is he runs a 20:15 at most by year end. As far as the 3:11, I bet he never runs another marathon in his life to save face... Wait what am I talking about, it's Mikey! He doesn't have any dignity to lose.

I don't think the 20 minute 5k is as easy as some have made it out to be. The guy is 47 years old and has minimal running history. He won't even acknowledge the 10k$ challenge unless he knows for a fact he can break it.

I think you meant 5k, but yes, doable unlike the 3:11. I doubt even if he completely dedicated himself to running he could get under 3:20. When you consider what he lies about doing on a warm, humid day then he should be able to get close to 3:05 or better on marginal training and decent conditions.Mike acts like a 15 y.o. and thinks we don't know anything, parents are stupid, yes?Yes Mike. Remember what you did at Via. The start, jumping into the course later - how exciting!!! - and the glorious holy shit you did it finish. Remember the cheating. And how you are now defined.Your fault and NO ONE ELSE IS TO BLAME but yourself. Well, Barb McKeever but she is clueless. We are not fooled and using silly #haters hashtags are humorous but true in that WE HATE CHEATERS.That would be you.

Trollminator wrote:

Others have said it before, the 10k for breaking 20min is cake. I think Mike tries to go for it given he's already tried to make everyone think he was injured. If he comes up short then he has his excuses. It's pretty pathetic isn't it? A grown man has to be coaxed by a running site to give us a hint of honesty. My guess is he runs a 20:15 at most by year end. As far as the 3:11, I bet he never runs another marathon in his life to save face... Wait what am I talking about, it's Mikey! He doesn't have any dignity to lose.

The sheer intensity of a 5k will make any attempt a memorable experience :)

Mike, always dancing:richard messineo@Rjmess92531m@mikerossi22 where is the proof! If your really did, show us the data!Mike Rossi@mikerossi22 Follow@Rjmess925 don't need to show you a damn thing. Now go eat something you skinny little girl.8:48 PM - 1 Aug 2015

Northeastrunner wrote:

I don't think the 20 minute 5k is as easy as some have made it out to be. The guy is 47 years old and has minimal running history. He won't even acknowledge the 10k$ challenge unless he knows for a fact he can break it.

Btw the cheater Mike Rossi is following us. Hiya cheater Mike!So much more to come, so deserving of it all. Mike Wins!

Northeastrunner wrote:

I don't think the 20 minute 5k is as easy as some have made it out to be. The guy is 47 years old and has minimal running history. He won't even acknowledge the 10k$ challenge unless he knows for a fact he can break it.

I saw the taunts today on Twitter.

Breaking 20mins? I did my first season out for cross country as a JV athlete.

Is there a risk Mike could actually do it on a usatf certified 5k road race? Wasn't the guy a 22min 5k'er when he supposedly did his 3:11?

Picture Me Trollin wrote:

I saw the taunts today on Twitter.

Breaking 20mins? I did my first season out for cross country as a JV athlete.

Is there a risk Mike could actually do it on a usatf certified 5k road race? Wasn't the guy a 22min 5k'er when he supposedly did his 3:11?

There's a risk... he never ran more than 20mpw. Might actually improve a bit if stays healthy. If his injury was fake his odds are a bit better.

I still don't think it is doable...

The difference between a 20:47 and a 19:59 is precisely the difference between someone's 5K and 10K race performance. So if you're a 17 minute 5K runner imagine trying to run a 34 minute 10K. Or if you're a 15 minute 5K-er try running a sub-30 10K. Because that is precisely what we're talkinga bout in terms of race equivalencies.

So for non-runners a 20:47 might sound really close for anyone who actually understands running it basically means he needs to run twice as far as his current 5K time before he could have a chance at breaking 20 for the 5K.

And that is if he really could run a 20:47 right now which I don't think he can. Talk is cheap so the whole argument is moot.

As for the other comments on improvements and newbie gains. I know it's anecdotal and personal but I did go from running 24:04 in January of 2010 as a new runner who just started running to running 19:05 by May and running a 37:11 10K in October (17:52 equivalent and 2:51:35 marathon equivalent) My marathon time at that time was a 3:05 so I was 15 minutes off my marathon equivalent from my 10K. I didn't break 2:50 in the marathon for 2 more years and by then I was running 16:40 for the 5K and my marathon was still 5 minutes off on the equivalency table (2:44 vs. 2:39).

So yes, newbie gains can be huge and yes, marathon times take years to catch up to the shorter distance equivalencies and require a ton of hard training and miles to build the required endurance.

Mike Rossi has already got his newbie gains when he went from a 30 minute 5K runner to a 22 minute 5K runner. For him to drop another 2 minutes is like me trying to get to sub-16. Never going to happen. And I'd be surprised if he could come within 10 minutes of the marathon equivalency of his 5K time ever.

So in a sense I'd say the 5K offer is the most generous one and the most attainable for him but it's still pretty much impossible.

In some totally unrelated news Mike Rossi or one of his friends, if he has such a thing, were playing around a bit too much with Wikipedia today that earned him a nice 48 hour IP ban.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:208.65.21.98

Furthermore since he kept up the Edit Warring on Wikipedia now there is a Talk page associated with the marathon course cutting entry that has some extensive information put on by yours truly that he simply cannot delete. You must not remove stuff from talk pages are they are meant to be a permanent discussion of what is going on the actual page. Before he should attempt another edit he will have to discuss his point on the talk page and why his edit (removal of the Mike Rossi part) is the one that should prevail. He has been warned about it. So not only he is a marathon cheat he is a moron who does not abide the rules of Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Marathon_course-cutting#Edit_war_surrounding_Mike_Rossi

The most beautiful part of it all is that Wikipedia is a democracy and if there is a dispute such as this one between Rossi and an editor then a 3rd party opinion can be the deciding factor. Good luck finding a third party that would side with his "no conclusive evidence was found" argument! Maybe he can ask Barb to edit the Wikipedia article for him.

As I said before, Rossi is a marathon cheat who also sucks at the interwebz.

Mike, I'd seriously stay the fvck away from Wikipedia if I were you. Your IP addresses are tracked, banned and there is no way for you to hide behind anonymity.

Mike Rossi of Rydal, Pennsylvania

#mikethemoronrossi #interwebzidiotmikerossi #marathoncheatermikerossi #liarandlosermikerossi #mikebringingshametothenamerossi

This is fun.

Can someone remind me again, how old is this idiot Rossi?

From Twitter:

"Mike Rossi ‏@mikerossi22 · 1h1 hour ago

I'm gonna take yo' money bitches..Just sayin'..."

"Mike Rossi ‏@mikerossi22 · 2h2 hours ago

Hi trolls...do you really believe I was only running 15 MPW? LOL. You're dumber than I thought. #haters #hacks #homewreckers"

"Mike Rossi ‏@mikerossi22 · 4h4 hours ago

Hey trolls. For the love of God. Go eat something. #letsrun"

Add to the fact that his supposed best time was a 21:52 on 9/20/14 at the Rock n Roll Philly Half/5k. Start time was 8am. From this page, http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KPHL/2014/9/20/DailyHistory.html , the weather at that time was a very nice 62 degrees.Compare that to this supposed 20:47 that was run in 90 degree heat.Yeah, right indeed!

somebloke wrote:

Yeah, right.

20:4x is very unlikely. So far off from what he is capable.

Let's play 'what if' for a second and assume that time is real. Two weeks after injury? I predict another injury in 3...2...1...