Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

You would have every right to set up a camera and videotape a race. The participants have no expectation to a right to privacy. I doubt anyone would even say a word to you.

But I think with the mats and video cameras they are going to set up, you wouldn't like find anything that they won't.

Perhaps the only good that has come out of this is that the marathon organizers have probably figured out they actually have to do some work and run a proper fvcking marathon instead of just sucking money out of the thing.

RossiCheated wrote:

You would have every right to set up a camera and videotape a race. The participants have no expectation to a right to privacy. I doubt anyone would even say a word to you.

But I think with the mats and video cameras they are going to set up, you wouldn't like find anything that they won't.

Perhaps the only good that has come out of this is that the marathon organizers have probably figured out they actually have to do some work and run a proper fvcking marathon instead of just sucking money out of the thing.

I highly doubt that the marathon organizers are going to make the video public for internet sleuths to dissect and they may not even post splits in the online results. If they do, they could make them so that you have to click on the individual runner's name to see the split, which will make it impossible to quickly skim the results for splits that don't add up.

I guess that I'm happy with the changes, as any Boston-certified course should have anti-cheating systems in place, but having them is only half of the equation. You also need race directors who are willing to DQ obvious cheaters and the LVM is severely lacking in this regard.

A lack of evidence was not the reason for Rossi not being DQ'd.

gatorade&vodka wrote:

Even if they have a reputation for not DQing a cheater, Via does a lot of things right. The course, time of year, lack of congestion all make it an attractive marathon for many.

And, most importantly, lack of timing mats!

But thanks for creating this epic thread.

Well the good thing of having independent filming is you would have access to the images whereas VIA is not forthcoming with theirs.

RossiCheated wrote:

You would have every right to set up a camera and videotape a race. The participants have no expectation to a right to privacy. I doubt anyone would even say a word to you.

But I think with the mats and video cameras they are going to set up, you wouldn't like find anything that they won't.

Perhaps the only good that has come out of this is that the marathon organizers have probably figured out they actually have to do some work and run a proper fvcking marathon instead of just sucking money out of the thing.

Well, I think my suspicion has been confirmed - this thread was really just Mike and Ken messaging under various user names. And now it's over. I don't know what is with those two. Ever since that summer they spent working together in the Wyoming mountains herding sheep, they've had this really weird relationship. It's like some sort of tension between them. I don't know how to describe it? Something happened between them, I guess we'll never know what it was.

Fire Barb McKeever! wrote:

I know that I've said this before, but, given the turn in discussion, I'll just reiterate again that I believe now more than ever that Rossi bribed Barb or offered a large donation to the race's charity in order to have his name left in the results.

That's almost as stupid as Ken's accomplice theory.

Actually, it's not nearly as stupid as Ken's theory, but I think it's highly unlikely.

elephino wrote:

That's almost as stupid as Ken's accomplice theory.

Actually, it's not nearly as stupid as Ken's theory, but I think it's highly unlikely.

Agreed, the Ken accomplice theory is the dumbest thing in the history of the Letsrun forum but the bribery idea runs it close.

We all know Mike Rossi cheated to get his Boston Qualifier.

How does a guy start running at age 45 and 18 months later run a 3:11? Well that is plausible if he actually had the build for it, had an endurance background, and trained properly.

Mike did not, he is a larger runner who in his own words said he trained his ass off averaging 15 miles a week over those 18 months.

199 out of 200 runners were photographed at the mid-race check point, not Mike.

He "ran" 26.2 miles at a faster pace than he ever ran a 6.2 mile race.

The reason this thread keeps going is because Mike Rossi doesn't get it. He thinks if he attacks us and constantly deflects this thread we will give up.

My name is Tim Vandervlugt, not an anonymous troll.

elephino wrote:

Fire Barb McKeever! wrote:

I know that I've said this before, but, given the turn in discussion, I'll just reiterate again that I believe now more than ever that Rossi bribed Barb or offered a large donation to the race's charity in order to have his name left in the results.

That's almost as stupid as Ken's accomplice theory.

Actually, it's not nearly as stupid as Ken's theory, but I think it's highly unlikely.

The president of the International Cycling Union Pat McQuaid has revealed to Cyclingnews that Lance Armstrong made not one, but two donations to the UCI. Speaking to Cyclingnews during a visit to Britain, McQuaid said that the seven-time Tour de France winner signed a personal cheque for $25,000 in 2002 and then his management company Capital Sports and Entertainment made a second payment of $100,000 in 2005.

RUNINTHESUN wrote:

The reason this thread keeps going is because Mike Rossi doesn't get it.

The fights over, that idiot with the handle 'anonymous poster' made sure of that. The only reason this thread will keep going is because people like you keep repeating the same old stuff.

At least Ken and the trolls provided a bit of entertainment between the repetitive dross you and others kept/will keep posting, GregTR was/is the exception.

The thread keeps going because Mike Rossi cheated to get a BQ and people who actually earned the right to run Boston hate a fraud.

Kip Litton wrote:

RUNINTHESUN wrote:

The reason this thread keeps going is because Mike Rossi doesn't get it.

The fights over, that idiot with the handle 'anonymous poster' made sure of that. The only reason this thread will keep going is because people like you keep repeating the same old stuff.

At least Ken and the trolls provided a bit of entertainment between the repetitive dross you and others kept/will keep posting, GregTR was/is the exception.

Stop crying like a little bitch Ken

Another reason to keep regurgitating the same old evidence is that Mike and Ken keep high jacking this thread.

We all know Mike Rossi cheated to get his Boston Qualifier.

How does a guy start running at age 45 and 18 months later run a 3:11? Well that is plausible if he actually had the build for it, had an endurance background, and trained properly.

Mike did not, he is a larger runner who in his own words said he trained his ass off averaging 15 miles a week over those 18 months.

199 out of 200 runners were photographed at the mid-race check point, not Mike.

He "ran" 26.2 miles at a faster pace than he ever ran a 6.2 mile race.

The reason this thread keeps going is because Mike Rossi doesn't get it. He thinks if he attacks us and constantly deflects this thread we will give up.

My name is Tim Vandervlugt, not an anonymous troll.

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6479539&page=673#ixzz3hQNYsOLK

Brought to you by a #cheater, #liar, and #deceiver:

Mike Rossi

@mikerossi22

43s

My run today dedicated to the 3 H club. #haters #hacks #homewreckers

iiagdtr wrote:

Brought to you by a #cheater, #liar, and #deceiver:

Mike Rossi

@mikerossi22

43s

My run today dedicated to the 3 H club. #haters #hacks #homewreckers

What does 43s stand for?

It was posted 43s ago - when I copied the message that is. So very recent.

finisher medal wrote:

iiagdtr wrote:

Brought to you by a #cheater, #liar, and #deceiver:

Mike Rossi

@mikerossi22

43s

My run today dedicated to the 3 H club. #haters #hacks #homewreckers

What does 43s stand for?

Dear "Fire Barb McKeever!" Great handle, btw!Others have dismissed your theory, but I think there's a very good chance you're on to something. I've dreamed that the sponsors would force Barb McKeever to actually do her job and disqualify him, and then Mike Rossi goes public with the bribe and even sues her for a refund - it would make another spectacular side story to this whole $hit show that is Mike Rossi.

PS, Greg TR, please check your fb messages for the one I sent to your "general" inbox, so you might not notice it otherwise. Thank you!

Got ya . . . shows you how much I use twitter.

I think that the reason Ken has gone underground is that he is finally lining up the last straw of evidence he gathered locally without stalking to finally give his immensely powerful journalistic contact the go-ahead to bring Rossi down to his knees.

There is no other reason that guy stopped posting, is there?

Has anybody set up a mike rossi facebook page that is dedicating his attempt to run for $100k? Would that be against the terms of facebook? If not, you'd find it when you search for him. It wouldn't be negative per se . . . just detail the contest posed to him by letsrun. Then people can just post on that page . . . stupid idea?

LMR wrote:

BTW - I just traced my own IP with that site and it's spot on.

This is perhaps the greatest moment in this thread's history as of late.

A heavyset man, in an attempt to prove that he traced the location of an internet poster using a public IP address, "traces" his own IP address.

And it's spot on.

He is so taken aback by his technical brilliance.

Never mind that his was the equivalent of calling your own phone number and getting a busy signal or hearing your own voicemail.

You can now say you "trace" yourself on the internet.