Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

Hit the return button. Thanks wrote:

The Truth is Mike Cheated wrote:

Rossi's options appear to be limited at this point, and none of them are very good. He can't admit that he cheated and ask for forgiveness. It is too late for that. He has lied to too many people who are close to him, many of whom probably don't believe him, but who pretend that they do because they know what a douche-nozzle Rossi is and they don't want him to turn on them. No, he is too invested in his lies to ever admit that he cheated. So, what can he do? He could hunker down and wait it out. But, that's not Rossi's style. Don't forget, in his mind, he is "the man in the ring." He could continue on his present course: provocative Facebook updates and posts, anonymous posting on this thread, twitter wars with the famous and not-so-famous, and, now, Wikipedia edit wars with Greg. But, on his present course, he is losing in the court of public opinion. His only saving grace up to now is that LVM has an incompetent Race Director who apparently lied about conducting a thorough investigation into Rossi's cheating and erroneously claims that the evidence of Rossi's cheating is not conclusive. (I should note here that I doubt McKeever made this decision without input from Bart Yasso, who apparently has forgotten that a charity marathon is still, first and foremost, a marathon.) All it is going to take is one or two articles about McKeever (and, perhaps, Yasso) and Rossi's house of cards could easily come tumbling down. But, Rossi has yet another option: he could sue Ken, Peter, Greg, Tim, and/or the brojos for calling him a cheater and a liar. I know it is unlikely Rossi would sue anybody for calling him a cheater and liar, because he wouldn't be able to prove the statements are false, but Rossi doesn't play by the same rules as most people. Since the movie A Few Good Men was discussed recently, I'll point out that Rossi reminds me of Col. Nathan R. Jessup, who (as written) lived in his own fantasy world. Like Col. Jessup, Rossi would probably be good for some courtroom fireworks if we can just get him there.

Try breaking up your rambling thoughts into paragraphs next time.

A few quick counterpoints:

- he is not losing in the court of public opinion. He's 99.99999% guilty in the court of runners' opinions, but that's a very small fraction of the real world. Non-runners vaguely (if at all) remember him as dad of the year. He got interviewed by Matt Lauer, and we all love Matt Lauer. Matt Lauer would never interview a bad guy, right?

- I'm not so sure that Rossi's current strategy of keeping his name in a tiny spotlight is the wrong move. We live in a very bizarre age - where any type of attention is good. I don't quite understand it, I certainly don't like it, but it is what it is. Can a sex tape be far behind?

- I wasn't in the boardroom, but I'd be very surprised if the charity wasn't consulted regarding the BQ. This whole idea of attacking Barb McKeever (was she even on the "Review Committee?") is probably the weirdest part of this sick mob mentality thread.

- You now think that someone is going to write an article about the Review Committee's decision not to BQ? Good luck with that.

- And finally, I really think the Brojos screwed up by offering the $10,000 to run a 5K under 20 minutes. If I was advising Rossi (for the record, I'm not - I don't even have an AOL email address), I'd tell him to train like hell, do speed work on the treadmill all winter, and come back in the spring and torch a 5k, declare victory, and retire forever from running.

Roric's left toe wrote:

RE: Ken defends Nazis and slav wrote:

No. They were not all Mike's friends. Nobody was laughing. You can say you were joking but you werent.

You said lies about the military, saying there were no means of defying orders which amount to nazi genocide.

You are a liar and a coward. I am not Mike's friend, I am a former member of the USMC and you have no honor.

Totally agree with this. I've been here since the beginning and have read every single post on this thread. I've publicly called out Rossi here, on several of the articles, the LVM Facebook page, and on Twitter. I'm Dennis Gunthert and will stand behind everything I've said.

Ken, you're nothing but a distraction and an aid to Rossi. I was part of the twitter conversation with Mike and Cecily. That conversation went something like this:

Cecily: Where's the proof?

Mike: Look at the site making the claims. They [meaning YOU, Ken] were mean to my wife and kids.

Me: The personal attacks were wrong and just about everyone on the board thought so. Let's talk about your cheating.

Mike: It keeps happening. [Again, YOU doing that Ken]

Me: They're mean and horrible people. Let's talk about your cheating.

Mike: They're mean and horrible and they're the ones making the claims.

See what he did there, Ken? He used your completely inappropriate comments about his wife divorcing him and his kids hating him to deflect from the accusations. Now recently you've piled on by saying that men who were traitors to the United States and the Constitution were heroes and that Nazi soldiers weren't really to blame because they were just following orders. News flash, you farking moron, the oath of enlistment includes promises that you will obey the Uniform Code of Military Justice and will obey the LAWFUL orders of those appointed over you. I think it's pretty obvious that murdering civilians or prisoners of war falls on the unlawful side of the fence.

At this point, I'd probably believe you were actually a troll trying to help Rossi by discrediting the entire site.

Now, do us all a favor and SHUT THE FARK UP!

GregTR wrote:

OK, time to get back on topic.

As we all know Mike Rossi has claimed that he has been identified in 6-7 additional photos by LVM that were not part of his original photo selections. Abingtonrunner refuted this claim stating that Race Photo Network told him in an e-mail that all photos from LVM were on their website and there were no additional photos.

So we all know and can agree that Mike Rossi cheated but it never hurts to look at all evidence. Since Mike is so nice and posts little hints by changing his background or profile photos, he did the same thing with his Twitter account where he set the background to these claimed missing photos of him on the course.

Mike was telling the truth that these photos were not identified to contain him on the Race Photo Network. And Abingtonrunner was also telling the truth when he said Race Photo Network said all photos were on their site. So it didn't take too long to find these two photos and see what the fuss was about and what kind of "evidence" Mike has that has yet to be refuted because he was unwilling to produce them other than in an obscure way posting them on his twitter feed as a background photo.

In case he changes his twitter background, here is the photo in question:

http://i.imgur.com/x7bVYt3.jpg

And here is the original (he couldn't even hide the crop tool when he made the screen capture, true amateur):

http://i.imgur.com/X1bpM2V.jpg

1) The photo in the background numbered 635668487524719738.jpg is indeed Mike Rossi. But it's no more proof than any of his finishing photos as it was taken at the finish line. You can see the timing mat behind him. You can find this photo by searching for runner 2531 and it's one of his finishing photos.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00134/13322.jpg

2) The second photo in the foreground numbered 635668487120959402.jpg is from the course at one of the relay exchanges, that is why there are all those people around. However the dark body on the side of the photo is not Mike Rossi. That runner is bib# 2325 Joseph Susteno who finished in 3:22. The original photo that Mike used on his Twitter can be seen in runner 1689's photo stream:

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2651.jpg

Mike used a crop of this photo so it is not easily identifiable but that is the photo. Then if you go down the photo stream from that location you can see that the black shirted fellow that runs past the camera 4 shots later is Joseph Susteno.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2652.jpghttp://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2653.jpghttp://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2654.jpg

And finally the girl in the white shirt and hat followed by the girl in the blue singlet.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2655.jpg

Here are all these photos in an album, in case the originals disappear...

http://imgur.com/a/vyzcd

No Mike Rossi in sight...

Just another Mike Rossi claim debunked and put to rest. I guess Mike will need to change his twitter background photo to some new "evidence".

SHUDDUP DOWN FRONT! wrote:

Do you guys not see what GregTR has done here? Ripped Mike a new one and Barb has no reason NOT to DQ Mike without there being some real craziness at VIA.

GregTR wrote:

OK, time to get back on topic.

As we all know Mike Rossi has claimed that he has been identified in 6-7 additional photos by LVM that were not part of his original photo selections. Abingtonrunner refuted this claim stating that Race Photo Network told him in an e-mail that all photos from LVM were on their website and there were no additional photos.

So we all know and can agree that Mike Rossi cheated but it never hurts to look at all evidence. Since Mike is so nice and posts little hints by changing his background or profile photos, he did the same thing with his Twitter account where he set the background to these claimed missing photos of him on the course.

Mike was telling the truth that these photos were not identified to contain him on the Race Photo Network. And Abingtonrunner was also telling the truth when he said Race Photo Network said all photos were on their site. So it didn't take too long to find these two photos and see what the fuss was about and what kind of "evidence" Mike has that has yet to be refuted because he was unwilling to produce them other than in an obscure way posting them on his twitter feed as a background photo.

In case he changes his twitter background, here is the photo in question:

http://i.imgur.com/x7bVYt3.jpg

And here is the original (he couldn't even hide the crop tool when he made the screen capture, true amateur):

http://i.imgur.com/X1bpM2V.jpg

1) The photo in the background numbered 635668487524719738.jpg is indeed Mike Rossi. But it's no more proof than any of his finishing photos as it was taken at the finish line. You can see the timing mat behind him. You can find this photo by searching for runner 2531 and it's one of his finishing photos.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00134/13322.jpg

2) The second photo in the foreground numbered 635668487120959402.jpg is from the course at one of the relay exchanges, that is why there are all those people around. However the dark body on the side of the photo is not Mike Rossi. That runner is bib# 2325 Joseph Susteno who finished in 3:22. The original photo that Mike used on his Twitter can be seen in runner 1689's photo stream:

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2651.jpg

Mike used a crop of this photo so it is not easily identifiable but that is the photo. Then if you go down the photo stream from that location you can see that the black shirted fellow that runs past the camera 4 shots later is Joseph Susteno.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2652.jpghttp://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2653.jpghttp://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2654.jpg

And finally the girl in the white shirt and hat followed by the girl in the blue singlet.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2655.jpg

Here are all these photos in an album, in case the originals disappear...

http://imgur.com/a/vyzcd

No Mike Rossi in sight...

Just another Mike Rossi claim debunked and put to rest. I guess Mike will need to change his twitter background photo to some new "evidence".

Roric's left toe wrote:

RE: Ken defends Nazis and slav wrote:

No. They were not all Mike's friends. Nobody was laughing. You can say you were joking but you werent.

You said lies about the military, saying there were no means of defying orders which amount to nazi genocide.

You are a liar and a coward. I am not Mike's friend, I am a former member of the USMC and you have no honor.

Totally agree with this. I've been here since the beginning and have read every single post on this thread. I've publicly called out Rossi here, on several of the articles, the LVM Facebook page, and on Twitter. I'm Dennis Gunthert and will stand behind everything I've said.

Ken, you're nothing but a distraction and an aid to Rossi. I was part of the twitter conversation with Mike and Cecily. That conversation went something like this:

Cecily: Where's the proof?

Mike: Look at the site making the claims. They [meaning YOU, Ken] were mean to my wife and kids.

Me: The personal attacks were wrong and just about everyone on the board thought so. Let's talk about your cheating.

Mike: It keeps happening. [Again, YOU doing that Ken]

Me: They're mean and horrible people. Let's talk about your cheating.

Mike: They're mean and horrible and they're the ones making the claims.

See what he did there, Ken? He used your completely inappropriate comments about his wife divorcing him and his kids hating him to deflect from the accusations. Now recently you've piled on by saying that men who were traitors to the United States and the Constitution were heroes and that Nazi soldiers weren't really to blame because they were just following orders. News flash, you farking moron, the oath of enlistment includes promises that you will obey the Uniform Code of Military Justice and will obey the LAWFUL orders of those appointed over you. I think it's pretty obvious that murdering civilians or prisoners of war falls on the unlawful side of the fence.

At this point, I'd probably believe you were actually a troll trying to help Rossi by discrediting the entire site.

Now, do us all a favor and SHUT THE FARK UP!

Not an interwebz expert. wrote:

GregTR wrote:

Well someone from Philly edited the Marathon Course Cutting Wikipedia article and removed Mike Rossi reference from the course cutting article. the IP that made the change was: 98.115.247.177 and it is a Philadelphia Verizon IP. His edit lasted a whopping 10 hours.

Mike, my "friend"

1) I'm way better at the interwebz than you are

2) Please don't turn this onto an edit war because you might make this page too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars

I put it all back in and cleaned up the references as well as added link to the YouTube video and one more source. If Mike keeps deleting, next time I'll add stuff about him calling Cecily a homewrecker, him going on a name calling and bullying rampage, full of screen shots and twitter links.

Based on that IP is there any way of confirming if that was Rossi, can it be linked to his email address, what ever that is?

Laughable wrote:

Hit the return button. Thanks wrote:

- he is not losing in the court of public opinion. He's 99.99999% guilty in the court of runners' opinions, but that's a very small fraction of the real world. Non-runners vaguely (if at all) remember him as dad of the year.

Read the replies on Cecily Tynan's Facebook post again. He's guilty to 100% of Philadelphia residents.... Ya know, the people who hire local DJs and will most likely now avoid him.

The lack of comments from people who know him is also deafening. They will post anonymously here (assuming it's not ALL Mike), but won't put their real name on the line to defend him on Facebook. Were they ashamed that it would be on their FB feed for all of their friends to see? Very telling...

Link:

https://www.facebook.com/6abcCecilyTynan/posts/10155906606695094

BTW - this should be added to the master list of links

GregTR wrote:

OK, time to get back on topic.

As we all know Mike Rossi has claimed that he has been identified in 6-7 additional photos by LVM that were not part of his original photo selections. Abingtonrunner refuted this claim stating that Race Photo Network told him in an e-mail that all photos from LVM were on their website and there were no additional photos.

So we all know and can agree that Mike Rossi cheated but it never hurts to look at all evidence. Since Mike is so nice and posts little hints by changing his background or profile photos, he did the same thing with his Twitter account where he set the background to these claimed missing photos of him on the course.

Mike was telling the truth that these photos were not identified to contain him on the Race Photo Network. And Abingtonrunner was also telling the truth when he said Race Photo Network said all photos were on their site. So it didn't take too long to find these two photos and see what the fuss was about and what kind of "evidence" Mike has that has yet to be refuted because he was unwilling to produce them other than in an obscure way posting them on his twitter feed as a background photo.

In case he changes his twitter background, here is the photo in question:

http://i.imgur.com/x7bVYt3.jpg

And here is the original (he couldn't even hide the crop tool when he made the screen capture, true amateur):

http://i.imgur.com/X1bpM2V.jpg

1) The photo in the background numbered 635668487524719738.jpg is indeed Mike Rossi. But it's no more proof than any of his finishing photos as it was taken at the finish line. You can see the timing mat behind him. You can find this photo by searching for runner 2531 and it's one of his finishing photos.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00134/13322.jpg

2) The second photo in the foreground numbered 635668487120959402.jpg is from the course at one of the relay exchanges, that is why there are all those people around. However the dark body on the side of the photo is not Mike Rossi. That runner is bib# 2325 Joseph Susteno who finished in 3:22. The original photo that Mike used on his Twitter can be seen in runner 1689's photo stream:

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2651.jpg

Mike used a crop of this photo so it is not easily identifiable but that is the photo. Then if you go down the photo stream from that location you can see that the black shirted fellow that runs past the camera 4 shots later is Joseph Susteno.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2652.jpghttp://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2653.jpghttp://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2654.jpg

And finally the girl in the white shirt and hat followed by the girl in the blue singlet.

http://images1.partypics.com/events/2676/26764939/00027/2655.jpg

Here are all these photos in an album, in case the originals disappear...

http://imgur.com/a/vyzcd

No Mike Rossi in sight...

Just another Mike Rossi claim debunked and put to rest. I guess Mike will need to change his twitter background photo to some new "evidence".