Official 2014 Doha Diamond League Discussion Thread

Soop wrote:

Dibaba is not injured, she ran an outdoor PR. Here come the excuses again. I realize everyone wants her to be the next superstar, but she is inconsistent and doesn't have the killer instinct of her sister or Aregawi.

Aregawi is the real mid-distance star right now.

Genze can still come back and do something special this year. This was one race. Obiri, Cherono and Kipyegon are all going to push her hard

Yeah, I guess the taping was a fake too, idiot? Dibaba has been injured before. But perhaps she was faking then, too?

Kapcherop wrote:

This must be really devastating for her. The Kenyans however seems to have fully prepared for any eventuality. Faith Chepngetich in fourth was running her first official 3000m and did very well in my opinion, just less than 3 seconds off the winning time.

Umm.. Faith was 3rd, She is only 20 years old. She did run a 3:56.98 1500 lat year.

Be afraid Mary Cain, be vary afraid

well.. wrote:

Soop wrote:

Dibaba is not injured, she ran an outdoor PR. Here come the excuses again. I realize everyone wants her to be the next superstar, but she is inconsistent and doesn't have the killer instinct of her sister or Aregawi.

Aregawi is the real mid-distance star right now.

Genze can still come back and do something special this year. This was one race. Obiri, Cherono and Kipyegon are all going to push her hard

Yeah, I guess the taping was a fake too, idiot? Dibaba has been injured before. But perhaps she was faking then, too?

There wasn't any taping, you worthless retard. She's not hurt, she just miscalculated her strategy, and got reeled in on the last lap

rojo wrote:

Aman FTW wrote:

I don't understand why people think Amos is even CLOSE to the level of Aman.

I hope you understand now.

What a race!!!

Yes, I know AMan won but this race was perfect.

It shows Aman has the heart of a lion. He just finds a way.

But he doesn't normally find a way against Rudisha. I think Amos has Rudisha like talent.

So we have the heart of lion versus supreme talent.

Amos told Steve Cram he's only 75%. Given that fact, I think he'll be better than Aman at the end of the year.

How is it a fact if it is a subjective estimation of the athlete himself, not backed by any biomarker tests for fitness, peak, or burnout??

In short, there is no way to tell.

Yes it is early, so likely he isn't peaked, but let's not get our noses too far up his cheeks -- just enjoy the performance for what it is and enjoy seeing the season play out and the many great athletes we have today -- hopefully rejuvenating the sport.

How do we know that, other than your fanboi ism (and you may be right, that Aman isn't at "70% ??

More importantly, get a healthy Rudisha on the line and all three of these monsters on a perfect day at low altitude....and One For The Ages, Man!!

Sprintwheezer wrote:

The US short sprints continue to confound. This makes 3 races this year for English Gardner looking terrible and each a little slower, actually a tenth slower each time down the track in past month. I wondered why she chose to move to new coach after having a great 3 years at Oregon.

Curtiss Mitchell stunk it up in his first showdown of the season vs the Jamaicans.

I believe its high time the US shoe companies start supporting sprints more as has been done in distance. The current US training options for post-collegiate sprinters is limited and some of those choices are less than ideal. Until we do there will be no stopping the Jamaicans and others are catching up like the Brits and French.

Re: English, yeah that's interesting, but let's give her time to make the adjustments, and she is training to peak at different times this year and she may be a little intimidated yet on this even bigger stage.

Wino Hobo wrote:

Here are videos from the meet:

Men's 1,500:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBapfgt3ZvA

Men's 800:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpgGS-vN0dI

You're welcome.

YOU'RE THANK YOU!! YEE ROCK.

I worked Euro hours and had to sleep thru meet...argh.

If Aman and Amos meet again and Rudisha is not in the race, my money will be on AMos. Not because he is better than Aman at the moment(no evidence to indicate that yet) but because Aman is scared of the Dude. Aman is at least in 1:43 low shape but could not go for that simply because he was scared of Amos sitting behind him. To find out the current value of the two, put Rudisha in the race with them. Rudisha will go for it and these two guys will sort themselves out and I am sure at the finish line it will not be a close call like it was today. Both Amos and Aman have same tactics of sit and kick and therefore a great danger to Rudisha. But will see how Rudisha will handle them when he finally tows the line.

Pretty sure I'm giving up on the Diamond League Fantasy thing.... I picked Aman and got 0 points for him winning

illegitimate wrote:

Pretty sure I'm giving up on the Diamond League Fantasy thing.... I picked Aman and got 0 points for him winning

Ditto... what the F.

yourmom.com wrote:

illegitimate wrote:

Pretty sure I'm giving up on the Diamond League Fantasy thing.... I picked Aman and got 0 points for him winning

Ditto... what the F.

Ah well.. maybe next year

Of course we have now seen the 800m race. A good race indeed. As a Motswana (ie a native of Botswana, NOT Botswanan)I have read a lot of post here on LRC, especially those about Nijel. Someone was still harping on about his age; I mean come on now, his age is currently irrelevant. Though I appreciate it would have mattered when he broke the 800m junior world record. The truth of the matter is that for some of these guys who were born in the rural areas and raised by grandparents (as is the case with Nijel) it is difficult to establish the true birth dates as they do not have a certificate. We sort of have to rely on their parents to give us their best estimate and we try to triangulate and corroborate the facts a bit before issuing an official birthdate certificate. However, the age remains a bit of an unknown forever, but once he is given an official certificate by government officials we move on.

Let me now wear my other hat as a Sport Scientist: Amos or Aman? well, I really don't engage in these kinds of predictions and debates but I can tell you that I serve in national medical committees for sports in Botswana and have seen Amos train and perform. Until recently, this guy was not doing any training at all (the DJing thing has been a distraction and national issue & he was injured for part of 2013) so he is indeed far from being fit. The young man is just a natural talent but I for one would love for him to be running more regularly injury-free and may be improve his running style to reduce his side-to-side movement and forget about DJing (for now anyway...he has been quoted as saying he would still want to DJ during the off-season! LOL. I think he still need does not comprehend what it means to an Olympic silver medalist. To him it was just another race. I would like to engage with those who would like to more sports in Botswana in general and may be more about Amos (our very fragile gem).