Official 2014 Doha Diamond League Discussion Thread

Souleiman makes his case for #1 in the world, beating Kiprop in 3:29-3:30.

I don't know whether to pick Aman or Amos--who would? It seems like Aman will run 1:42 or 1:43, while Amos might run 1:41 or 1:46. Should be a good one.

G. Dibaba easily, say 3:56.

Chanelle Price 1:58.8, but not necessarily first.

3:56 would be out of this world even for dibaba. That would be a 4 min and 20 sec PR for her in the 3000m.

But if you think she is in shape to do it then I will take your word for it.

Has a women's record ever been faster than a men's record? I mean even if dibaba has a bad day and runs say 4:10 she would still obliterate Komen's record.

Looking to see what Genze does in this first race. Will she go for the record right out of the gate, when she's fresh? Or wait until later. No champs or Oly, so no peak.

I think she will try it and could possibly smash it.

Other than that don't see a big time out of anyone. Shelly is always fun, but don't think she's in 10.7 form this early.

Unlikely to see any record attempts in the searing heat. Maybe she will try in Monaco when Kiprop is going for the 1500 record, much better conditions.

pewow wrote:

3:56 would be out of this world even for dibaba. That would be a 4 min and 20 sec PR for her in the 3000m.

But if you think she is in shape to do it then I will take your word for it.

Has a women's record ever been faster than a men's record? I mean even if dibaba has a bad day and runs say 4:10 she would still obliterate Komen's record.

Dibaba is running the 3K, not the 1500. As for her not being in form, she broke indoor 3 WR's in a 2 week span in her 1st, 2nd and 3rd races of 2014

Maslak wins the 400M in 44:56

Soop wrote:

pewow wrote:

3:56 would be out of this world even for dibaba. That would be a 4 min and 20 sec PR for her in the 3000m.

But if you think she is in shape to do it then I will take your word for it.

Has a women's record ever been faster than a men's record? I mean even if dibaba has a bad day and runs say 4:10 she would still obliterate Komen's record.

Dibaba is running the 3K, not the 1500. As for her not being in form, she broke indoor 3 WR's in a 2 week span in her 1st, 2nd and 3rd races of 2014

He's been sarcastic. He's saying that running a 3.56 in a 3k race would be incredible.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

G. Dibaba easily, say 3:56.

Chanelle Price 1:58.8, but not necessarily first.

3:56. That's a hell of a 3000 time.Shes' good, but I didn't realize she's that good.

As for Price, "not necessarily first"? I'd LOVE TO see Chanelle win this thing but would be stunned to do it. I'll be happy to pay you $20 if she's first.

This thread was initially called, "Your Predictions, Doha Diamond League" but we are changing into the "Official 2014 Doha Diamond League Discussion Thread."

What are your predictions for the meet?

Star Performer?

Shock Performance?

Underperformance?

Best finishing kick?

Fast Times?

I'm most excited about the 800 and to see how Nijel Amos looks. Hopefully any fears that the sport was going to lose a 1:41 18 year old to DJing or injury are officially erased.

On the poll on the front page, I picked Amos to win which I'm not sure I really believe but I'm very excited about his return to the sport. Am I the only one who thinks he might win this thing?

Here's a stat showing you how raw he was when he ran 1:41 in 2012. I believe Doha is Amos' second ever DL 800.

Last year, he ran his first in Lausanne and was right there with everyone until the final 100. That was when he'd run 48 for 400 coming in. This year, he's run 45 for 400.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/07/ethiopias-mohammed-aman-impresses-in-800m-in-lausanne-in-his-final-race-before-worlds/

Aman vs Amos career - Aman leads 3 to 1.

800 m AfrC Gaborone 2011-05-15 1:46.62 (1) 1:47.38 (3)

800 m WY Villeneuve d'Ascq 2011-07-09 1:44.68 (2) 1:47.28 (5)

800 m OG London 2012-08-09 1:43.20 (6) 1:41.73 (2)

800 m Athletissima Lausanne 2013-07-04 1:43.33 (1) 1:44.71 (4)

Wins: 3 1

John Wesley Harding wrote:

I don't know whether to pick Aman or Amos--who would? It seems like Aman will run 1:42 or 1:43, while Amos might run 1:41 or 1:46. Should be a good one.

I don't understand why people think Amos is even CLOSE to the level of Aman. Aman has been the clear #2 to Rudisha since Kaki started to decline. He's the only guy to beat Rudisha in recent years and he's done it twice. Last year, he ascended to another level, and was completely dominant. He won World Outdoors going away, and then won World Indoors this year. I think he may have become a very legit challenge even to Rudisha.

I feel ALL the hype for Amos is because of the one race in London (and a couple fast 400s). That race was nuts. Almost everyone is the field set huge PRs, and why? Because they had the best rabbit in the world for the entire race. Plus, the track in London was giving out some super fast times across the board.

We always look at conditions when they're BAD, but London 2012 for some reason or another, had singularly GOOD conditions in the 800m. Did Amos perform better than Aman in that race? Sure. But Amos tried to win the race, couldn't keep up with the fastest man in history, and bombed a little bit. In any case, it was ONE race, and having your best race be in perfect conditions doesn't make you the (second) best in the world any more than it makes Ryan Hall a better marathoner than Meb Keflezghi.

Plus, Aman has been on fire the past year, while Amos has nothing except for a really good 400. Of course, anything could happen, but Aman should be the favorite by a long shot.

Czech this wrote:

Maslak wins the 400M in 44:56

LASHAWN

Does anyone have a link to a free live stream?

Simple answer. 2012 1:41.73 at age 18.

As a coach, I'm always looking for TALENT. Talent doens't go away.

Yes Aman ascended but Rudisha wasn't there. In their one race against each other, Rudisha won. Without Usain Bolt, everyone would think Yohan Blake was totally unbeatable as well.

You act lik ea 1:41 at age 18 is a fluke. The guy had never even run the DL. He was in world juniors one week, then had an Olymic silver medal around his neck the next.

Aman should be the favorite for sure. Amos has in some ways been away from the sport for a year.

The 400s aren't why I like him, they just show he's likely somewhat fit.

Scroll down the list and find the Athletics. Select one of those. Should start in 10-15 minutes.

3.29.18 for Kiprop. Dominated the last 100m.

Kiprop in 3:29 low over Silas Kiplagat, Soulieman, then Makhloufipoop

Makhgoofy got rocked by the 3:30 barrier

Wow! Just wow!! If only the pace in the third lap hadn't dropped slightly.

I say, with the right sort of pacers, especially for late in the race, Kiprop is capable of breaking the WR.

What you think?