The women's 4x100 is scheduled for August 5th and 6th. If she is unable to train until her ban is lifted, that still gives Richardson 7 or 8 days of practice before the relays begin. Assuming she runs only the anchor that's enough time to get the handoff down.
Is this the same American whose coach was banned for PEDs?
Whose coach had apparently stated to a fake tv production company, in their covert attempt to procure PEDs from agents and trainers, that should they be able to pay $250K, they could obtain and administer human growth hormone and testosterone? (Wait, strike that, as the agent apparently back-tracked, stating: "It was just big talk — I did not actually source or supply the substances the reporters asked for but stupidly claimed I could.")
That same Dennis Mitchell, about whom Lord Coe covered in a statement about tackling the scourge of doping that has long tainted the sport: “We are looking at who we want in our sport. Focusing on the influences that surround athletes is a critical area of work."?
Yeah, sure, I believe Richards.
*Richardson
tblue01 wrote:
The women's 4x100 is scheduled for August 5th and 6th. If she is unable to train until her ban is lifted, that still gives Richardson 7 or 8 days of practice before the relays begin. Assuming she runs only the anchor that's enough time to get the handoff down.
Why would she be "be unable to train"? Her suspension is from competition, not training.
juvie wrote:
Jenna Prandini and Gabby Thomas are now officially on the 4x100 team. They’re out two best 200m runners and are excellent on the turns. I’d give Jenna lead-off and Gabby third leg. Daniels second leg and Oliver anchor.
You must be either British or Dutch. Such a combination will ensure the USA runs 4th.
If I were Sha'carri, I would not run the 4x100. However if she is allowed to run, she should anchor. Without her, the USA does not have a chance of getting the silver.
fahrenheit452 wrote:
Back when Flojo was the fastest in the 100, she got put on the third leg, leaving Ashford for the anchor. Ashford did have more experience on relays.
There are all kinds of theories.
Yes, and even at the end of that single two-month period when Flojo was actually faster than Ashford, the exchange from Flojo to Ashford was messed up, and Ashford had to run down Gohr from a long way back to take the gold. (I still don't recall a better female 100-meter runner than Ashford, though I admittedly don't follow the event very carefully. I do remember Ashford's attempt to smile after Flojo beat her in the 100-meter final, and the U..S. commentator asked her to say something about how great Flojo was. Ashford was a class act.)
Apart from various theories about which leg the purportedly fastest 100-meter runner should be on, this case also would present the delicate issue of allowing someone who was just busted for doping to take the glory position on the team. Although some U.S. spectators may want Richardson to be given the credit (and perhaps compensation) for being the fastest 100-meter runner in the country, the rest of the world, including Japan, may have a view that myopic and insular Americans can't appreciate. (By the way, I've still never seen Richardson run or heard her interviewed; I wouldn't have even recognized her name until this brouhaha exploded into the general press. I was pleased to read her statements accepting the blame and the ban, and apologizing to those she let down. If Dennis Mitchell or various activists regarding other issues remain outraged, consider the source.)
NYDCRunner1 wrote:
If I were Sha'carri, I would not run the 4x100. However if she is allowed to run, she should anchor. Without her, the USA does not have a chance of getting the silver.
What other countries are in contention for silver? What other countries have 4-6 women who can break 11?
Daniel to Oliver to Thomas to Richardson would be my relay order. I wish we could have Hobbs in the relay but she finished too far back. Prandini is a good runner but in my mind, I can't put her over someone who just went 21.6.
Who’s her coach..?!
juvie wrote:
Jenna Prandini and Gabby Thomas are now officially on the 4x100 team. They’re out two best 200m runners and are excellent on the turns. I’d give Jenna lead-off and Gabby third leg. Daniels second leg and Oliver anchor.
Prandini and Thomas where always going to be on the relay. Felix was always a such a great 4x1 relay runner because the running start negated her poor block start. Unless you are a 200/400 type, in order to run a sub-21 (200m), you would have have 10.8x top end speed. Felix once ran a 10.8x (100m) where she had the slowest reaction and was dead last in the at the 50 meter mark. Simply put athletes, like Prandini and Thomas for example may only be 11 flat out the blocks but are faster with a running start. Also, 200m sprinters are good at carrying their speed into the exchange zone. If Richardson runs the 4x1, which I doubt, her logical leg would be anchor or 2nd.
Fayded wrote:
tblue01 wrote:
The women's 4x100 is scheduled for August 5th and 6th. If she is unable to train until her ban is lifted, that still gives Richardson 7 or 8 days of practice before the relays begin. Assuming she runs only the anchor that's enough time to get the handoff down.
Why would she be "be unable to train"? Her suspension is from competition, not training.
Ask ruuleman on the previous page. He was the one that was making that claim.
coach wrote:
NYDCRunner1 wrote:
If I were Sha'carri, I would not run the 4x100. However if she is allowed to run, she should anchor. Without her, the USA does not have a chance of getting the silver.
What other countries are in contention for silver? What other countries have 4-6 women who can break 11?
The Brits are a lock or silver if there is no Sha'carri. Three of them run times the US women run, but they have excellent baton passing to make up for any disadvantage of pure foot speed;, something that the US is not known for. Then there is Dinah Asher-Smith, who has the sub 11 creds.
Outside of Sha'carri, the only other US sprinter with sub 11 speed is Gabby Thomas, based on her 21.61 . How far under sub 11 she is, is yet to be determined. Javianne Oliver was just run down by a Brit. Now perhaps she was suffering from jet lag or something, but her time seems to be par for the course to me.
Cheetahspeed wrote:
Daniel to Oliver to Thomas to Richardson would be my relay order. I wish we could have Hobbs in the relay but she finished too far back. Prandini is a good runner but in my mind, I can't put her over someone who just went 21.6.
Daniels isn't fast enough for the final. Put her on the elimination rounds. Then again, with no Sha'carri we just may be scraping the bottom of the barrel and have to run her.
For those thinking order....and why 3rd leg is or isn't a good spot for Richardson.
1st leg = Great starter required but also someone who can hug the line with baton in right hand. Gardner
2nd leg = Longest leg goes to Thomas who needs a little room to build steam but can carry longer at top speed.
Baton in left hand. She is long as well (Tommy Smith) which makes for great "free space" on both exchanges.
3rd leg = Consider Calvin Smith to Carl Lewis. WR holder in the 100 but WC twice in the 200. Dude blew the 84
Games wide open leaving a slower starter Free and without pressure to win his 4th gold matching
Jesse Owens. Don't kid yourself, Richardson can run a fast turn too. Short, compact for taking the turn at
high speed, right handed, and strong finisher. She will run through the exchange and chase the anchor down
the homestretch yelling in her ear the whole way.
4th leg = Most controversial leg.....Prandini. Needs a fast running start but once up to speed can be very difficult for
the Jamaicans to run down. They will panic once Thomas opens up a can on the backstretch. Richardson
stays focused and can be the key like Calvin Smith to make Prandini's job less stressful. Prandini has a good
head on her shoulders. She will do her job and won't screw up the exchange. She will fight hard to the end
to honor the other 3 not thinking about her own personal glory. She's a team player.
The key is getting the edge on the backstretch and everyone blasting through the zones and staying focused on themselves and not what's going on around them. Discipline, Focus and Determination by these 4 = American Record and possibly an Olympic Record. Getting through the rounds with alternates is always a problem for USA. Richardson will have her glory as "That Girl" that blew the race open on the 3rd leg.
Oliver is currently the best starter the USA has. She should run the first leg.
Here's my controversial leg, Daniels goes 2nd.
Third leg goes to Prandini. She's a great turn runner.
Anchor to Richardson.
Compared to the Jamaicans, Oliver can keep up with Briana Williams who almost certainly will start. Daniels will lose a step to SAFP. Prandini will lose another step to Thompson-Hera. Richardson will close the gap on Jackson but not enough to take the gold.
I can predict the drama today.
USA leading Final, hands off to Sha'Carri.. she blows it open, drops the baton before finish.
DQ.
Drama.
the best starter going first gets way overblown. it's not a 20 meter leg. First leg is gonna run at least 90 meters, so whoever is the fastest 90 meter runner has the "best start."
As far as a 200m runner running second leg, well, being the fastest 200 meter runner does NOT make you the fastest 120 meter runner.
It's fun to talk about these things and try to sound smart, but I believe we overthink this stuff way too much.
The way richardson finishes a 100 meter run, I have no doubt she would also have our fastest time over a 120 meter second leg.
I think the most important thing is that you have people who are great at giving and receiving handoffs at 2nd and 3rd leg. If everybody is equal at this, then who cares.
As far as 200 meter runners going on the curves, there may or may not be something to this. But a lot of awesome 200m runners are not awesome on the curve, but then blow away the competition on the straight.
NBC says according to her agent so far she won't be running the relay.
high school xc coach wrote:
the best starter going first gets way overblown. it's not a 20 meter leg. First leg is gonna run at least 90 meters, so whoever is the fastest 90 meter runner has the "best start."
As far as a 200m runner running second leg, well, being the fastest 200 meter runner does NOT make you the fastest 120 meter runner.
It's fun to talk about these things and try to sound smart, but I believe we overthink this stuff way too much.
The way richardson finishes a 100 meter run, I have no doubt she would also have our fastest time over a 120 meter second leg.
I think the most important thing is that you have people who are great at giving and receiving handoffs at 2nd and 3rd leg. If everybody is equal at this, then who cares.
As far as 200 meter runners going on the curves, there may or may not be something to this. But a lot of awesome 200m runners are not awesome on the curve, but then blow away the competition on the straight.
this the only sensible reply i've read in this entire thread
racist distance fan numbnuts trying to talk about sprints on letsrun, as comical as it gets