I had a buddy who was homeschooled in the same area as drew Hunter and he would run with the team pretty often. From what I’ve heard it was a 10 year 4 million dollar deal and he heard it from the guys on the team
I had a buddy who was homeschooled in the same area as drew Hunter and he would run with the team pretty often. From what I’ve heard it was a 10 year 4 million dollar deal and he heard it from the guys on the team
Total mistake. He should go to college so he can train with a good college coach who knows how to develop runners so they have long careers like Nick Willis. He should go train with that coach.
He can still train with "that coach".
Noticed in the sweat elite workout video he was talking about emotional stress, it’s a shame all this deal making will surely take it out of him for the trials.
Roflcopter wrote:
Anyone know or can speculate on details of the contract?
I'm interested in how much he'll make before bonuses. I know running doesn't pay all that well in general, and contracts are super secretive, but curious why he wouldn't go to school instead, it's be free presumably. It's not a lock that he's going to be a stud.
Can he count on more than 50K/yr?
I have no idea about these things.
I say more like 150k / year.
Some of you are so far off it is frightening, on this.
At one time I thought this website had a listing of the salaries of the pro track & field athletes. I can’t seem to find it or maybe I’m being too lazy. Does anyone know where that data is?
The reason that I want to find the info is that I was always under the impression, perhaps wrongly, that the vast majority of t&f athletes really did not make a lot of money. Sure, there are a few raking it in but most do not. There are perks that can’t have a $ figure attached to them, I’m sure. Also, if anyone wants to compete at the highest levels it is next to impossible to do so working a “normal” job.
I just started wondering about all of this because I’m wondering about the wisdom of someone like Kessler committing to becoming a pro already. I think Athing Mu’s case is different, though. She has a much bigger upside than Kessler, IMHO. Kessler is talented, no doubt, but how he is going to develop seems a little less clear than Mu.
I'm curious too. I just got to imagine it's pretty alluring though...certainly more than the cost of college tuition, because if it wasn't than an NCAA full-time scholarship might be a better financial deal (depending on what degree you get).
I also gotta think it's more what you might expect from your first job out of college (20k to 50k??). Because again, if not then financially speaking he should probably go to college.
(Of course, for a kid this talent he might have greater ambitions than $$$ on his mind....)
I guess it's all relative, but a deal of 200k a year for 10 years....I mean now that is a MUCH better financial bet than college. Aside from CEO type jobs, you gonna prob have to be a doctor to expect that type of salary on graduation I think?? And even then, you would have to go through 10+ years of education and debt acquiring to get that day 1 salary....
I would guess $100k a year guaranteed??
KAV wrote:
applebys123 wrote:
I did think it was strange the Hobbs was wearing the adidas, which other commenters are claiming are an exclusive access shoe. Did grijalva wear them the other week?
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applebys123 wrote:
I'm curious too. I just got to imagine it's pretty alluring though...certainly more than the cost of college tuition, because if it wasn't than an NCAA full-time scholarship might be a better financial deal (depending on what degree you get).
I also gotta think it's more what you might expect from your first job out of college (20k to 50k??). Because again, if not then financially speaking he should probably go to college.
(Of course, for a kid this talent he might have greater ambitions than $$$ on his mind....)
I guess it's all relative, but a deal of 200k a year for 10 years....I mean now that is a MUCH better financial bet than college. Aside from CEO type jobs, you gonna prob have to be a doctor to expect that type of salary on graduation I think?? And even then, you would have to go through 10+ years of education and debt acquiring to get that day 1 salary....
I would guess $100k a year guaranteed??
You can make that kind of money in computer science including over 100k a year first job.
What he really misses out on is being successful against collegiate athletes. By going pro he is immediately racing against fields that are guaranteed to have dopers in them. Maybe he can develop to compete with them, maybe not. If not he goes from being the best at the hs level to a so so pro. Never getting a chance to shine and develop at the college level.
He also misses out on being part of a close knit collegiate team. Something no pro team will replicate.
He shouldn’t have to pick and maybe we are getting to the point with the ncaa where athletes won’t have to.
sad hunter wrote:
applebys123 wrote:
I'm curious too. I just got to imagine it's pretty alluring though...certainly more than the cost of college tuition, because if it wasn't than an NCAA full-time scholarship might be a better financial deal (depending on what degree you get).
I also gotta think it's more what you might expect from your first job out of college (20k to 50k??). Because again, if not then financially speaking he should probably go to college.
(Of course, for a kid this talent he might have greater ambitions than $$$ on his mind....)
I guess it's all relative, but a deal of 200k a year for 10 years....I mean now that is a MUCH better financial bet than college. Aside from CEO type jobs, you gonna prob have to be a doctor to expect that type of salary on graduation I think?? And even then, you would have to go through 10+ years of education and debt acquiring to get that day 1 salary....
I would guess $100k a year guaranteed??
You can make that kind of money in computer science including over 100k a year first job.
What he really misses out on is being successful against collegiate athletes. By going pro he is immediately racing against fields that are guaranteed to have dopers in them. Maybe he can develop to compete with them, maybe not. If not he goes from being the best at the hs level to a so so pro. Never getting a chance to shine and develop at the college level.
He also misses out on being part of a close knit collegiate team. Something no pro team will replicate.
He shouldn’t have to pick and maybe we are getting to the point with the ncaa where athletes won’t have to.
While true, there are a bunch of advantages too. Money, top notch training and recovery facilities, elite training partners and lots of time and mental energy freed up to focus on running. All depends on how he is as a person. If he is a mature 18 year old, then all good. If he's a kid, then maybe not so much.
sad hunter wrote:
applebys123 wrote:
I'm curious too. I just got to imagine it's pretty alluring though...certainly more than the cost of college tuition, because if it wasn't than an NCAA full-time scholarship might be a better financial deal (depending on what degree you get).
I also gotta think it's more what you might expect from your first job out of college (20k to 50k??). Because again, if not then financially speaking he should probably go to college.
(Of course, for a kid this talent he might have greater ambitions than $$$ on his mind....)
I guess it's all relative, but a deal of 200k a year for 10 years....I mean now that is a MUCH better financial bet than college. Aside from CEO type jobs, you gonna prob have to be a doctor to expect that type of salary on graduation I think?? And even then, you would have to go through 10+ years of education and debt acquiring to get that day 1 salary....
I would guess $100k a year guaranteed??
You can make that kind of money in computer science including over 100k a year first job.
What he really misses out on is being successful against collegiate athletes. By going pro he is immediately racing against fields that are guaranteed to have dopers in them. Maybe he can develop to compete with them, maybe not. If not he goes from being the best at the hs level to a so so pro. Never getting a chance to shine and develop at the college level.
He also misses out on being part of a close knit collegiate team. Something no pro team will replicate.
He shouldn’t have to pick and maybe we are getting to the point with the ncaa where athletes won’t have to.
Good points. Agreed!
Hobbling wrote:
Total mistake. He should go to college so he can train with a good college coach who knows how to develop runners so they have long careers like Nick Willis. He should go train with that coach.
Agreed. Someone like Ron Warhurst and Nick Willis would be a good group for Hobbs.
alphas only wrote:
confuzzled wrote:
So who will he actually be training and working out with? Will Mike Smith just let him hop in with the boys or something?
That’s my question as well. Why not just stay in Michigan?
He basically is. If you read the Track & Field News article says he is going to NAU for the Fall semester and then returning to work with Ron in the Spring and Summer.
Reading between the lines that seems like getting some altitude base training in the Fall before next years track season, plus getting a chance to experience some college life.
He also loves climbing so why not be somewhere that can do that too.
Article talks about how it was a super tough decision.
king999 wrote:
Some of you are so far off it is frightening, on this.
They latch onto a lowball number and claim it's not a good deal and can't understand why Hobbs would make such poor deal, and their experience or imagination is so limited that they can't consider the possibility that he didn't. Hobbs has parents who themselves might have tried to go pro looking after him, an agent, a former University of Michigan head coach with connections all over the place to advise him, and professional runner friends.
Nothing wrong with Kessler cashing in now, though I would have suggested 2yrs of college. Teaches you how to race, and is a hell of a good time. Also get half his degree completed at no cost. At 18, racing as a pro will be a difficult task, but he has the skill set to do it. Hoping that he enjoys competing on the professional level.
Need to get on the pig genitals ASAP.
Did he get signed for track or rock climbing?
Just two things:
1) LOL at those early in the thread throwing around a $50k/year number. So remarkably off base - as if he would go pro for that amount.
2) To those suggesting he should've waited until after the trials to get paid more for "making the team" - he was never going to make the team this year. Sponsor wants to make the announcement during the trials and this was the time to make it official.
Why would he go pro?? He's faster than any college runner lol. He is going to college still Adidas is paying for it