Video Highlights 2015 Boston Marathon
April 20, 2015
It should be noted that a couple other suspicious runners have been looked at and none has had their names splattered across this forum until Sarah B mentioned a name.
We looked at a guy with no bib, one with a crumpled bib. With some investigating we cleared both of them as not likely accomplices. The latest person, whom Sarah loves to mention now, just threw up a red flag and we were looking to prove or disprove any involvement.
rewind2 wrote:
PaulPillow wrote:I have been following this thread from the beginning. I have made only about 10 total posts. I also produced one of the first youtube videos of the picture sequences to try and prove Rossi did not run.
There is no doubt in my mind that Rossi did not run the full course. I want to see him DQ’d.
The poster LoserMikeRossi, also known as Kenny, is a photographer/DJ in the same location as Rossi. He has posted on this board that he has been sued by the AG of Pennsylvania for not producing wedding videos after he was paid to do so. He is not a runner and would fit the definition of being clinically obese.
My purpose for this post is to hopefully get Kenny to stop posting in this thread. He is a big distraction to the main purpose of the thread. He claims that it is not personal with Rossi, but his posts beg to differ. His main goal seems to be to eliminate competition so he can get more wedding photo/DJ jobs. He also makes questionable posts about Rossi’s wife and has wild speculations about his personal life.
Below are some of his previous posts. These posts do not include all of the things he has posted. I got sick of looking back at his nonsense, and stopped on the June 3rd posts.
The first post I could find of Kenny’s was on 5/12. Here are a few of his highlights.
5/13 – “I am not a runner, but it's my understanding that the whole reason they have photographers along the route is for this specific reason - to take photos of every racer, and if they aren't photographed it is proof they weren't there.”
5/13—“ QUESTION: If you were planning a wedding, or know somebody who was, would you....
A.) notconsider hiring Mike Rossi as your DJ based on his cheating to get to Boston?
B.) Or would his pompous letter to the principal be enough to turn you away?
C.) Or just that he is attention whore and would probably try and be the center of attention at the wedding deter you?”
5/13 – “Racing is a non-competitive sport. There are no rules except be true to yourself and what you can do. Mike wanted to do something great and realized he couldn't. So he cheated.”
5/13 – “Prize money or ego are really the only two reasons to cheat in running. Because there is no competition the only possible loser is the runner himself. But if there is prize money involved, or a person somehow feels competitive and wants to make himself feel superior to other people, or he's just an attention whore, then those are all very compelling reasons.”
5/16 – “Anybody else think hat Mike Rossi caused the train wreck in Philadelphia to distract the press from his own train wreck? Just a theory.”
5/17 -- “Until you do how can you even look your wife and children in the face? Your wife must be wondering what else you are lying about. She's probably crying at home each weekend wondering if you are hooking up with a hot bridesmaid.”
5/18 – “And you are right, he is probably using the race as his alibi for cheating on his wife. He went to a Motel 6 and banged some hooker off BackPages and is telling his wife there is no way he was getting a BJ - he was too busying getting a BQ.”
5/21 – “No, the next logical step is that he makes a sex tape.”
5/25 – “This is going to negatively affect his business big time. He won't notice it initially because people book DJ's way far in advance of the wedding day. But if I heard a friend had gotten engaged I would tell them to steer clear of East Coast Event Group.”
5/27 – “I can understand why he would. She's kind of blah. But does anybody think he's handsome enough to even attract another women? Especially with those obvious hair plugs of his. Notice his hair NEVER changes. That's a clear sign of hair plugs.”
5/28 – “Is anybody going to the WXTU Anniversary Concert this Saturday? He will most likely be there handing out T-shirts or bumper stickers. He doesn't get to announce the acts because they let the full-time DJ's do that. Mike only fills in when somebody is sick or goes on vacation.
I'd be interested to see what he does when people start questioning him and he has no choice but to stand there and take it. Security won't throw somebody out because a DJ doesn't like the questions he's being asked. Will he lose his cool and take a swing at somebody?
Who's gonna go to the show and do it?”
6/1 – “My wife is friends with 3 school teachers and they all spread the word about him. If the owner of the DJ company was smart he'd cut his ties with Rossi now and publicly announce that he no longer works there”
6/1 – “Has anybody posted to his radio stations FB page so that his listener's know what he did?
https://www.facebook.com/925XTU?fref=ts“
6/2 -- “It seems the Philadelphia Magazine article, among others, come up when you Google Rossi's name or the VIA Marathon. I wonder how many times we'd have to mention East Coast Event Group before it started showing up in that search result “
Case closed Kenny, now please do us all a favor and go away.
Some repeats are worth re-reading
Some repeats are worth re-reading, re-repeating and re-posting. Still.
SaraB, nice to have you back. Miss the reasonableness of you, gregtr, triathlethleteguru, NYCRunner, abingtonrunner and other level headed peeps
If it's not done in public it's not accusing.
And just so you know, I'm not the only one who thinks he may have additional info. But now you have revealed that he was a person of interest, now everyone on his forum is going to be slinging mud.
Take note that even after you felt it was fine to drag his name into this I won't bother repeating it. I have respect for American War heroes and had no intentions of EVER mentioning his name in public. Only to the RD with regards to what he may or may not know.
And I do have the ability to take screen shots to prove that I intended to keep his name out of this.
Seriously, you don't think posting something in a facebook group is not public? No one dragged his name through anything but you because everyone with half a brain knows that there's no way he was carrying anything in his pocket. Your obsession with him was completely baseless and there is no evidence whats so ever that he was involved. If he wants to take you to court for slander and I will gladly travel to the US to testify. You didn't have a whole lot of respect for him in the facebook group... which you kicked me out of... because I defended him and told you your theory was crazy. I think you crossed a line by trying to find medical information to link Douglass Kendall's wife to Rossi. The poor guy should know that you're obsessed with him. Whilst you're screenshotting that you told everyone not to mention his name so that Rossi wouldn't get wind of your theory (not out of any kind of respect) do you also want to do some screenshots of the accusations you made against him? Hmmm, thought not. If I was you I'd just shut up because your hole is getting deeper and deeper and deeper and no one is taking you seriously at all.
Keep in mind, the above is just a sampling of the world of Mike Rossi according to Ken. Yeah, the Committee is going to accept conspiracy evidence from you when they didn't accept direct photographic evidence. Laughable on two counts. Anything from you is instantly ruled poisoned by the above. Also, the conspiracy issue short of a sworn confession is absurd. Focus on what you have, tighten it up, get people who the race, in a collective effort, make a statement to the Committee.
Lifecycle of Mike Rossi Cheater Thread:
1. Statement of facts
2. Excitement
3. Waiting
4. Hal Higdon and others legitimize
5. Waiting (seriously, LVM?)
6. Weak, easy and short sighted response from LVM
7. Anger
8. Ken
9. Ken
10. Seriously, Ken. Stop.
11. Ken - this is personal to you. Running is personal to us.
12. Ken (again)
13. Exhaustion that Ken is more of the story.
14. Discussion dies down because Ken (ironically)
15. Ken googles how far a "5 Kay" race is.
"If it's not done in public, it's not accusing"?
That's ridiculous.
You could be found guilty of slander if you verbalize something that is false as a statement of fact to just one other person. I don't recall if you ever went so far as stating that he was in fact an accomplice..but if you were to do so, doing so in 'private' would not matter.
Believe me I spent a lot of time making sure I was clear on slander when I decided to write new information about Knoblock-Moore after word got out that she may have a lawyer.
Losermikerossi,
You have definitely jumped the shark with your thinly veiled personal/professional revenge attempt, accomplice theories and secret investigations.
Please leave this board to those concerned runners seeking a DQ and only a DQ.
LoserMikeRossi wrote:
It should be noted that a couple other suspicious runners have been looked at and none has had their names splattered across this forum until Sarah B mentioned a name.
We looked at a guy with no bib, one with a crumpled bib. With some investigating we cleared both of them as not likely accomplices. The latest person, whom Sarah loves to mention now, just threw up a red flag and we were looking to prove or disprove any involvement.
You mean the other guy you accused of running for Rossi. The one who you posted loads and loads of different photos of that you stole from his facebook and were obsessed with even though we told you they looked nothing alike? We gave you loads of evidence to disprove your current theory, not the least that the two bibs started two seconds apart. We disproved it a large number of times but you ignored the evidence and carried on with your accusations, even trying to find Rossi's medical information. I stood up to you for the very reason that you were accusing this innocent man of things where there was no facts to support it. Declaring that someone is guilty without evidence in a secret facebook group is just as bad as doing it to their face. Actually it's worse because the poor guy can't even defend himself. You also asked anyone who spoke to him to record what he said. I'd love to see screenshots of that bit.
Life Cycle wrote:
Lifecycle of Mike Rossi Cheater Thread:
1. Statement of facts
2. Excitement
3. Waiting
4. Hal Higdon and others legitimize
5. Waiting (seriously, LVM?)
6. Weak, easy and short sighted response from LVM
7. Anger
8. Ken
9. Ken
10. Seriously, Ken. Stop.
11. Ken - this is personal to you. Running is personal to us.
12. Ken (again)
13. Exhaustion that Ken is more of the story.
14. Discussion dies down because Ken (ironically)
15. Ken googles how far a "5 Kay" race is.
Best thing on the thread!!
Life Cycle wrote:
Lifecycle of Mike Rossi Cheater Thread:
1. Statement of facts
2. Excitement
3. Waiting
4. Hal Higdon and others legitimize
5. Waiting (seriously, LVM?)
6. Weak, easy and short sighted response from LVM
7. Anger
8. Ken
9. Ken
10. Seriously, Ken. Stop.
11. Ken - this is personal to you. Running is personal to us.
12. Ken (again)
13. Exhaustion that Ken is more of the story.
14. Discussion dies down because Ken (ironically)
15. Ken googles how far a "5 Kay" race is.
Very nice summary of this thread. What will #16 be?
Ken rap sheet make Rossi look like a choir boy either way they are both dopes everyone knows Rossi cheat and Ken a mess
SaraB wrote:
LoserMikeRossi wrote:It should be noted that a couple other suspicious runners have been looked at and none has had their names splattered across this forum until Sarah B mentioned a name.
We looked at a guy with no bib, one with a crumpled bib. With some investigating we cleared both of them as not likely accomplices. The latest person, whom Sarah loves to mention now, just threw up a red flag and we were looking to prove or disprove any involvement.
You mean the other guy you accused of running for Rossi. The one who you posted loads and loads of different photos of that you stole from his facebook and were obsessed with even though we told you they looked nothing alike? We gave you loads of evidence to disprove your current theory, not the least that the two bibs started two seconds apart. We disproved it a large number of times but you ignored the evidence and carried on with your accusations, even trying to find Rossi's medical information. I stood up to you for the very reason that you were accusing this innocent man of things where there was no facts to support it. Declaring that someone is guilty without evidence in a secret facebook group is just as bad as doing it to their face. Actually it's worse because the poor guy can't even defend himself. You also asked anyone who spoke to him to record what he said. I'd love to see screenshots of that bit.
Yeah, I wish I had taken screenshots before I left. But yes, I can confirm that Ken asked anyone that speak with him record him. He also said that as long as you are not taking it to court, it's ok to do so.
I just hope this doesn't become a story for 'Dateline'.
Why in the world would anyone think that there were other 'suspicious' runners?
I am an economist (who specialized in game theory in graduate school) and anyone would tell you that maintaining a conspiracy, especially among loosely connected people is almost impossible. Why would Mike Rossi involve other people in his cheating scheme?
I am also a runner ... Why in the world would anyone have someone else carry their bib for them when they could simply peel off the course (like he seems to have done)? ... Sometimes, the simplest answer is really the answer, Ken.
Word of the day: Apophenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
I think Ken's "friends", the select few who he invited to be part of his "investigation", are abandoning him en masse... I think I mentioned it 100+ pages back that once VIA came out with the non-DQ the story was essentially dead. Everyone who cares knows what happened.
It's kind of like Dane's story. Everyone knows he cheated and he's a douchebag. But some still don't know/care. If I run into one of these people, like I did at Boston, I'll be sure to "educate" them and explain to them that they have some "research" to do to see who Dane really is.
Same with Mike Rossi. I won't be picketing everywhere about it but if it comes up in conversation with a real person I'll give them some pointers in case they had any doubt about the legitimacy of Mike's 3:11.
Anyone who is still fighting this particular case and looking through even more photos/videos and what-not, more power to you. I barely have time to read the posts here. But please keep to the facts and try not to invent new ones. When in doubt Occam's Razor should be the answer.
I have been following this thread on and off. Probably have read maybe a quarter of the pages (who could read them all). I have some honest questions for those still pursuing this guy.
Why are you people still so obsessed with this issue? Created and discussing it ad nauseum on this forum wasn't enough? You guys had to create two FB pages and a blog about cheating just because of this one guy.
I just don't get it and would honestly love for those entrenched to state the reasons they are still in the game.
Not sure who posted this here, but need some substance here.
Not sure who posted this here, but need some substance here.
SaraB wrote:
If it's not done in public it's not accusing.
And just so you know, I'm not the only one who thinks he may have additional info. But now you have revealed that he was a person of interest, now everyone on his forum is going to be slinging mud.
Take note that even after you felt it was fine to drag his name into this I won't bother repeating it. I have respect for American War heroes and had no intentions of EVER mentioning his name in public. Only to the RD with regards to what he may or may not know.
And I do have the ability to take screen shots to prove that I intended to keep his name out of this.
Seriously, you don't think posting something in a facebook group is not public? No one dragged his name through anything but you because everyone with half a brain knows that there's no way he was carrying anything in his pocket. Your obsession with him was completely baseless and there is no evidence whats so ever that he was involved. If he wants to take you to court for slander and I will gladly travel to the US to testify. You didn't have a whole lot of respect for him in the facebook group... which you kicked me out of... because I defended him and told you your theory was crazy. I think you crossed a line by trying to find medical information to link Douglass Kendall's wife to Rossi. The poor guy should know that you're obsessed with him. Whilst you're screenshotting that you told everyone not to mention his name so that Rossi wouldn't get wind of your theory (not out of any kind of respect) do you also want to do some screenshots of the accusations you made against him? Hmmm, thought not. If I was you I'd just shut up because your hole is getting deeper and deeper and deeper and no one is taking you seriously at all.
This is no longer something to chuckle about.
Ken Still has obvious mental issues.
Jesus.
LoserMR needs to step back. He is sounding like he has crossed a line in several regards. Many on here have offered advice to him, which he has ignored the same way MR has ignored the advice offered to him. The only upside is that both of their stubbornness has offered some quality entertainment.I am not on the double secret panel, but take the easiest and most likely approach, MR crossed the line, stepped off and drove to somewhere near the end. Why would he make it more difficult than it is and add in complications? Oh, I know, he got a drone to fly it over the start line and flew it to Starbucks where he was finishing his frappuccino. Have you asked if anyone saw an unusually loud bird that day near the start line?Seriously though, LMR, if you are really looking to assist, you need to step back and let it play out.
printer wrote:
Losermikerossi,
You have definitely jumped the shark with your thinly veiled personal/professional revenge attempt, accomplice theories and secret investigations.
Please leave this board to those concerned runners seeking a DQ and only a DQ.