Mary Keitany won more than $300,000 today
April 23, 2017
Looks like Tewelde dropped out
Places Place overall Place gender Place cat
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Split Time Diff min/km km/h
5K 00:14:33 14:33 02:55 20.63
10K 00:29:34 15:02 03:01 19.98
15K 00:45:16 15:42 03:09 19.12
20K 01:01:38 16:23 03:17 18.32
Half 01:05:04 03:26 03:08 19.18
25K - - - -
30K - - - -
35K - - - -
40K - - - -
Finish - - - -
Dibaba my love wrote:
So the question is
Does Keitany get the WR bonus but NOT the CR bonus? Pretty bizzare.
Does than mean Boston's CR is unbreakable?
Yes Bekele is Bekele !!! Is the only guy in the world been able to run 12'37
and 26'17". And only his injury problems dont make him (till now) break the WR in the Marathon . He has 2h03'03", but as coach Canova said if Bekele can have 5 ,6 months of training for the Marathon without injury problems
can break WR.
I think is in a totally different league and what he have done today risking
to really win the race after all his problems following the fall at the Dubai Marathon just proves it
Renato Canova wrote:
I can do my comment on the race of today.
Going to the men, I can speak for Kenenisa and for Abel Kirui, not about other athletes. I told many journalists who asked my previews before the race that Kenenisa, really, was not ready, because could not start running again till the end of February (due to the injury he had falling down at the start in Dubai, that became very bad after running for 20 km with pain and out of balance). Not running, Kenenisa increased his weight of 5 kg, so the training he had to do during the most part of March had the goal not to create specific endurance, but to lose weight. For example, we put in his training (I prepare his training plan, and discuss with Asrat Mersha, his local coach, the best approach) long run of 2 h 30, with the first 1 h 30' very easy (about 4' > 3'50" per km) and the last hour of fartlek (20 times 1' fast / 1' easy + 20 times 30" / 30"), because for Kenenisa is extremely important to have good feeling with a speed a little faster than the speed of the race.
Never I put some of the training I normally use (for example, 5 x 5 km in 14'45" with 1 km recovery in 3'25" / 3'30") for increasing the specific endurance, but some long session on track (2 x 3000 + 3 x 2000 + 5 x 1000 + 6 x 500m) at good speed (not far from the specific speed) with recovery walking, in order to create the feeling with the technical way of running at that identified speed.
In other words, I used a system very different from the system I normally use, every day changing plan after receiving the feedback from Mersha, looking at the best solution at the moment, but without a real long term plan.
What I said (and several newspaper showed the interviews I had) is that, with the current training of Kenenisa, NO ATHLETES IN THE WORLD COULD RUN UNDER 2:10, but, being Kenenisa, I supposed possible a time between 2:05 and 2:06.
So, for who knows the real situation, the race of Kenenisa is another demonstration that he has a so strong mind that never can be compared with any other athletes under this point of view. His threshold of pain, his ability to read inside his body for understanding how far can be from his limites, are qualities that only he as at that level, and probably are the reason because he is an absolute extraclass runner.
My idea, after the race of today, is that Kenenisa, IF able to follow an adequate training plan for marathon lasting 5 months, can run near 2:01 in ideal conditions. The real question is : will Kenenisa in the future to have this opportunity ? His engine, and his mind, are still at the top of the world. Is his body still at the top ? Is his motivation still at the top ? Are his stimuli still at the top ? In this case, no doubt that with him and Eliud Kipchoge we have two athletes who are 2 minutes ahead the rest of the World.
Thanks for your insightful comments! Seems like from your comments and track workouts with 500ms involved that kenenisa likes the speed aspect of training rather than long slower runs. Does he miss his track days?
What's next assuming he is healthy after this race? Is he still interested in world championships or just breaking WR (ie, aiming for Berlin now)?
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Oh really ... wrote:
The Scot wrote:The 14.11 opening 5k might have played a part.
devastated man wrote:
Fair enough, although I would think that'd still be in his wheelhouse, even in a marathon.
That's 1:59:42 pace.
^NIKE sub 2 breaker
Wanjiru truly is a stick. Damn is he skinny. KBek looks like a NFL fullback in comparison.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Bekele gave up! 600m to go and only 5 seconds back, exactly where he should strike, and he didn't do it.
Probably thought Wanjiru wouldn't expect that, which he didn't, but it was a bad tactic.
...you've never run a marathon.
I was cracking up today listening to the announcers shamelessly (for the most part) root for Bekele during his surge. Of course I wanted to see a good old kenny b kick down too but I'm not supposed to be an impartial commentator. I had to pause the stream, rewind and record one bit with a couple kilometers to go "come on Kenenisa- I shouldn't say that"
El Keniano wrote:
NativeSon wrote:Lol!
We are not too far off from you guys.
These boys are from my neck of the woods. We aren't too far apart. They are from Nyandarua and I am from Laikipia ....not very far from Rumuruti.
Central has great talent too. A lot of it.
Mary Wacera Ngugi is quite good at the half and so is Veronica Nyaruai to some extent .
Nyahururu and Nyeri are the 'iten' of running outside Iten and Eld.
Kipchoge and Kipsang remain the men but I think Wanjiru, Karoki and Kamworor are the heirs apparent when these guys retire.
We are in good hands as a country.
Tuko Pamoja....lol!
HA! I'm neither Rift Valley nor Mt. Kenyal, therefore a true Kenyan neutral 😆 I however think the competition between them is very healthy and good for the country. Hope we'll see a new Sammy or John Ngugi. Oh, and I worked with wildlife in Laikipia some years ago, so I know Rumuruti very well. It's the confluence of both communities. Very beautiful county.
I am neither from both areas myself as well. But from El Keniano's pointer, since Rumuruti is the confluence of the two communities, is there a possibility that one community has influenced the other(running wise)? Or maybe at some point the two communities merged(intermarried) and became either of the two communities? That means they could be related by blood. So that BK could actually be Bedan Kipchirchir Arap Maina translated into Kyuk as Muchiri KAroki? I hear both communities in the area are fluent in both languages and often their culture intermingle. Some study needs be done. That said, Kikuyu is second to KAlenjin in running talent followed by Kisii then Kamba and often produce runners even the best of Kalenjination cannot floor like John Ngugi, the late Sammy Wanjiru etc.
Dibaba my love wrote:
Does Keitany get the WR bonus but NOT the CR bonus? Pretty bizzare.
Duuhhh wrote:
kstvbh wrote:Was Bekele's 2:03.03 a fluke? Never to be approached again?
Or is he still combatting injury or whatever?
Fluke
EPO. They're worried they may be caught so they're lowering their dosages. Once officials give the "all clear" to the E. Africans they'll be back to higher dosing and 2:02 - 2:03 routine performances.