I wonder if that guy on the airplane that was giving her training advice is injured as often as she is? Maybe she should have listened instead of running the social media and belittling the poor guy.
Leigh Duffy now has to come up with a whole new script and find someone else to talk about
That's exactly what I was thinking. NBC was going to focus almost exclusively on Seidel in Paris. Unsophisticated American fans were going to expect the 2021 bronze medalist to upgrade to gold this time. Missing the Olympics is devastating for her but the cameras were going to show her falling minutes behind. This way those every-4-years fans will hear the story of the knee injury and conclude Molly otherwise would have won gold.
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I understand she’s disappointed and devastated, however to rise above these transitory emotions she should seek to be dignified and hopeful for the chance to compete on another day. I respect her for her athletic achievements, yet she has not represented herself with the best of classiness in these online settings. Notre Dame alumni expect high moral characteristics when representing yourself in public and private settings.
Agreed, the foul language is a legitimate topic. I'm glad there is beginning to be more push back. It accomplishes nothing, other than strongly hint you are otherwise incapable of expressing yourself.
The Dolphins were on Hard Knocks this season. It was loaded with profanity, especially from the coach Mike McDaniel. During early episodes the fan base reaction was similar to here. Deflection and dismissal. But as it became more and more prominent as the season progressed the tide shifted sharply. McDaniel came across as considerably more of an empty shell than fans were expecting. A topic would surface and you knew darn well his retort would be the F word and not much else.
That guy is highly educated, just like Molly. By the end of the season the same Dolphin message boards regulars who had defended the profanity earlier were now including the topic on the long list of everything that needs to be addressed for next season. The head coach should come across as a grown up.
I'm guessing that social media embraces profanity and peer pressure takes it even further.
I am a huge Seidel fan, but sometimes rooting for her is so frustrating. I know marathoning at a professional level comes with major risks, but I think something needs to be changed if you are constantly getting injured like this. I think it's time she finds a new coach, even though she would never because she is best friends with her coach.
I listen to her "The Buildup" podcast and it's sort of ominous..in the last episode a month or so ago she mentioned always riding that line between overtraining/getting injured and getting as fit as possible. Running through pain if necessary, etc. I was scared those words were going to come back around to bite her. Weirdly enough a similar thing happened with Bates- before Chicago she mentioned never really having to deal with injuries, doesn't see physios, doesn't stretch, etc.
Anyway, I hope she recovers soon. I really like her and know this is devastating for her.. we love you Molly!
If you’re not at least somewhat flirting with the line between being in incredible shape and getting injured…. You’ll never run your best. Just a fact. Not a strategy for everyone though
Never seen a group of more pathetic people than the posters on Let's Run. Seidel made an Olympic team running her first marathon. Was an Olympic Bronze medalist after her third, and several of the weak trolls on here say she isn't very good. They revel in her failures and disappointments. It's truly pathetic. I feel bad for her. 3 years of hope and work gone. Maybe she has some issues in her personal life. That's her business, not yours. And people are criticizing her for dropping an F-bomb, and for pretty much everything else. Grow up. All of you, myself included, are far from perfect. She works harder and is more talented than 99% of the people on this board.
I grew up near her. I have always been a fan but she is wealthy and privileged. I am wealthy and privileged. My brother got into drugs while attending Princeton. He is clean now but he created his problem. Runners coming from war torn countries have overcome things. We create our own hurdles when life is too easy. She grew up rich and went to one if the best colleges in the world. Other medalists grew up in huts and they ran away from bullets while looking for their next meal.
Ok. I'm going off topic a bit here which I urge people not to do but I can't help myself.
So what? Why does growing up in a "hut" dodging bullets make ones running accomplishments more admirable than someone growing up rich?
I mean you said it yourself, "We create our own hurdles" so life is hard for everyone - whether rich or poor. Now objective survival is much harder if you are poor but the poor don't also have to deal with the existential crisis that seems to be depressing the modern/developed world.
One could argue it's more of an accomplishment for Seidel to win a medal than some Kenyan born runner. Simple stats say that is the case. I mean look at how many Kenyan born runners have done it recent years and look at how many Western runners have done it. I'd argue she's likely at a genetic disadvantage and she also has a ton of options. She's a Notre Dame grad from a well off family. She doesn't have to brutalize her body - she could easily get a comfortable office job. Instead she's got a sick desire to run, run, run. Bravo to her.
A runner in Kenya has few high paying job prospects. If you are great at running, it's pretty obvious the task you are going to take.
I'm so tired of people apologizing and feeling bad for being wealthy and privileged. That means most likely someone in your family busted their ass and did quite damn well. Most of the poor people are dying to get the opportunity to give their offspring a better life So Meb Keflezighi's daughters come to letsrun and share their guilt about growing up well off? Hell no. Why is it any different for you or Seidel?
Plus the alternative to having rich and privileged people is communism which has never worked. The tide falls for everyone with that one.
We initially had combined the two thread titles so the title also said, "Molly Seidel goes home devastated". "Goes home devastated" in an insiders term long used on letsrun and is totallly appropriate but given this is an injury, I'll take it off as I don't want people to think someone is taking gee in her injury.
I grew up near her. I have always been a fan but she is wealthy and privileged. I am wealthy and privileged. My brother got into drugs while attending Princeton. He is clean now but he created his problem. Runners coming from war torn countries have overcome things. We create our own hurdles when life is too easy. She grew up rich and went to one if the best colleges in the world. Other medalists grew up in huts and they ran away from bullets while looking for their next meal.
Ok. I'm going off topic a bit here which I urge people not to do but I can't help myself.
So what? Why does growing up in a "hut" dodging bullets make ones running accomplishments more admirable than someone growing up rich?
I mean you said it yourself, "We create our own hurdles" so life is hard for everyone - whether rich or poor. Now objective survival is much harder if you are poor but the poor don't also have to deal with the existential crisis that seems to be depressing the modern/developed world.
One could argue it's more of an accomplishment for Seidel to win a medal than some Kenyan born runner. Simple stats say that is the case. I mean look at how many Kenyan born runners have done it recent years and look at how many Western runners have done it. I'd argue she's likely at a genetic disadvantage and she also has a ton of options. She's a Notre Dame grad from a well off family. She doesn't have to brutalize her body - she could easily get a comfortable office job. Instead she's got a sick desire to run, run, run. Bravo to her.
A runner in Kenya has few high paying job prospects. If you are great at running, it's pretty obvious the task you are going to take.
I'm so tired of people apologizing and feeling bad for being wealthy and privileged. That means most likely someone in your family busted their ass and did quite damn well. Most of the poor people are dying to get the opportunity to give their offspring a better life So Meb Keflezighi's daughters come to letsrun and share their guilt about growing up well off? Hell no. Why is it any different for you or Seidel?
Plus the alternative to having rich and privileged people is communism which has never worked. The tide falls for everyone with that one.
Yikes, someone's a little sensitive. But to the first straw-man argument (i.e., changing it to poor=more admirable accomplishments), you're missing the poster's point. I think the point of the huts/bullets comment was that "overcoming so many things" when talking about someone who was brought up in a privileged environment, had access to the best healthcare, and a world-class education rings a little hollow when you look at what some people around the world had to overcome/risk just to run. It had nothing to do with whether her bronze was more or less admirable depending on who earned it, it was all about perspective of what the poster thinks is actual hardship.
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Shot put. It didn't take long for the losers, aka haters, to come out of the woodwork.
But it blows my mind, that someone views a person ask everyone to discus her withdrawal as a hater. Here in Baltimore, when Lamar Jackson missed the end of the season two years in a row, it was of course openly discussed. "He's injured all the time, is he worth the money?" That's what being a sports fan is about.