Mary Keitany won more than $300,000 today
April 23, 2017
Jeff Wigand wrote:
casual obsever wrote:1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;
2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;
3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!
Did they record a DEHP spike?
Dude, you don't wear spikes in the marathon..
Jeff Wigand wrote:
casual obsever wrote:1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;
2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;
3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!
Did they record a DEHP spike?
Who knows? Only the hemoglobin and reticulocyte values came out.
I wish more people would maintain some level of civility on these msg boards. Even if you don't agree with the poster, it is does not mean you have to result to nasty or childish insults. I thought most people who posted were educated adults but I seem to be mistaken
What do we need all of the testing labs and national anti-doping agencies for? Obviously you can tell a doper just by looking at them.
casual obsever wrote:
Jeff Wigand wrote:Did they record a DEHP spike?
Who knows? Only the hemoglobin and reticulocyte values came out.
Not trying to smear anyone, but seriously how often would Wanjiru or Keitany be tested? Once a month? Are they blood tested? Or just urine?
https://www.iaaf.org/about-iaaf/documents/anti-dopingSubway Surfers Addiction wrote:
casual obsever wrote:Who knows? Only the hemoglobin and reticulocyte values came out.
Not trying to smear anyone, but seriously how often would Wanjiru or Keitany be tested? Once a month? Are they blood tested? Or just urine?
Congratulations Mary love 'ya babe!
bop wrote:
You prove it. There is no proof. No evidence. No credible testimony. You regurgitate something that someone else said without proof and then you say "It's been posted on this forum many times" and you are a trifling embarrassment b/c of it. If you actually want someone to believe you - back up what you say. Provide a source. Any legitimate source. ANYTHING.
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=paula%20radcliffe%20blood%20doping&oq=paula%20radcliffe%20blood%20doping&aqs=chrome..69i57.6278j0j7
The first result in the link you provided is a Telegraph article that does not address the blood values problem, it deals with issue of Paula being named.
The second result in the link you provided is a Telegraph article from September 2015 that does address the blood values problem:
According [to] anti-doping experts employed by The Sunday Times, who analysed the leaked IAAF data, on three occasions during Radcliffe’s career her test results were so "abnormal" that it is claimed there was only a one-in-1,000 chance that they were natural. The newspaper claimed that, of nearly 500 tests on British athletes between 2001 and 2012, Radcliffe produced the highest score above the threshold. To allay any suggestion that her blood values were always naturally higher than most, the newspaper said her results varied by as much as 47 per cent."
You are in denial.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/11852423/Paula-Radcliffe-defends-herself-against-claims-of-doping-but-does-it-stand-up-to-scrutiny.htmlYou're a psychic wrote:
What do we need all of the testing labs and national anti-doping agencies for? Obviously you can tell a doper just by looking at them.
Lance kinda looked like a doper early on his career ðŸ˜
Kev2 wrote:
I wish more people would maintain some level of civility on these msg boards. Even if you don't agree with the poster, it is does not mean you have to result to nasty or childish insults. I thought most people who posted were educated adults but I seem to be mistaken
Wishful thinking.
Lots of dopes on this forum.
And I'll guess most are not educated adults.
casual obsever wrote:
EE/NR wrote:Show me 100% proof that she took anything that aided her performance
1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;
2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;
3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!
Are you joking? He asked for proof. You did not provide proof. You provided evidence.
Fijc wrote:
casual obsever wrote:1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;
2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;
3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!
Are you joking? He asked for proof. You did not provide proof. You provided evidence.
And then we want unimpeachable testimony from ironclad reliable witnesses, and confessions too. Then we need the actual syringes connected with proper DNA evidence, and an unbroken chain of custody. The admission of actual blood as evidence, and its analysis by experts is contemptible and an affront to the fair-minded. AND IF THE SYRINGE DOESN'T FIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT!
Listen, Paula failed several tests. They will come out in due time. Her HgH use was legendary. Thankfully some of her blood scores came out and provided the proof we needed that she has not been clean.
Mary's 2:17 confirms Paula's doping career.
kjhg wrote:
Listen, Paula failed several tests. They will come out in due time. Her HgH use was legendary. Thankfully some of her blood scores came out and provided the proof we needed that she has not been clean.
Mary's 2:17 confirms Paula's doping career.
Blood scores are not proof of doping. Do you really not understand that?
Fijc wrote:
kjhg wrote:Listen, Paula failed several tests. They will come out in due time. Her HgH use was legendary. Thankfully some of her blood scores came out and provided the proof we needed that she has not been clean.
Mary's 2:17 confirms Paula's doping career.
Blood scores are not proof of doping. Do you really not understand that?
So why are athletes/cyclists routinely banned for Blood Passport anomalies? It's a matter of fact that British sport's institutions have recruited East German doping doctors to work with British sportsmen and women e.g. Heiko Salzwedel.
What we need on let's run is greater contempt for our fellow human, less love, more hatred and anger. Violent pride is the American way. Let's run is not real Americans because there is too much love and empathy and respect for fellow humans. Damn liberals ruin running and my life in general.
Fijc wrote:
casual obsever wrote:1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;
2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;
3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!
Are you joking? He asked for proof. You did not provide proof. You provided evidence.
Wasn't meant as a joke, but as a reminder of some the evidence.
Fijc wrote:
[quote]kjhg wrote:
Blood scores are not proof of doping. Do you really not understand that?
I don't know about that...they sure sanctioned a lot of Russians as a result of their "blood scores." ðŸ˜
I'm not in denial about anything. I provided the links - I know exactly what the article says. I know there is suspicion and some indication of abnormal blood values - and I also know is there is no evidence acceptable as proof that she blood doped. People (you) who say stuff ("She was proven 100% to be blood doping") and don't back it up with actual evidence are in denial. People (you) who say stuff ("She was proven 100% to be blood doping") and CAN'T back it up with actual evidence are in denial.
SHE WAS PROVEN 100% TO BE BLOOD DOPING???? And you pick a Telegraph article, one that cites The Sunday Times as its source for blood doping information while simultaneously providing a refuting argument against the Times' information, to back up the assertion that SHE WAS PROVEN 100% TO BE BLOOD DOPING? Get a clue.
Did you read past the second or third red heading?
OK, so you are being sarcastic. That's OK.