Scorpion_runner wrote:
Vaporflyer wrote:
I need a Vaporfly report. Who else besides Cragg was racing in them?
Cragg raced in vaporflys? Then her PR does not count. I'm sorry, but those who wear those shoes are cheating.
a PR by 5 mins? and has never run that fast without the shoes?
I'm telling you, those shoes should be banned. period.
Yeah sure, so then you'd pr by 15 minutes based on your pr. Let's ban their pre and post race massages as well;)
It's the training, period.
1991 goes back a little far. I’m more asking why their gazillion sub 1:03 half marathoners doesn’t yield more top 5 finishers in World Majors.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Cragg raced in vaporflys? Then her PR does not count. I'm sorry, but those who wear those shoes are cheating.
a PR by 5 mins? and has never run that fast without the shoes?
I'm telling you, those shoes should be banned. period.
I agree.
Nike is going to make a fortune on these shoes though.
The Vaporflys should be banned as course cutting is banned.
Even pacing by bicycle is banned.
If bicycle pacing is banned and the Vaporflys are not then, as Dr. Lee would phrase it, something wrong.
Cragg has proven that foreign courses are five minutes faster. If Rupp runs Tokyo next year he's got 2:04 and all the haters will cry "Vaporfly no fair!"
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Vaporflyer wrote:
I need a Vaporfly report. Who else besides Cragg was racing in them?
Cragg raced in vaporflys? Then her PR does not count. I'm sorry, but those who wear those shoes are cheating.
a PR by 5 mins? and has never run that fast without the shoes?
I'm telling you, those shoes should be banned. period.
She is too old to get a PR of more than 5 minutes w/o help.
kanny wrote:
4 Tokyo winners since 2007
6 straight Berlin winners 2000-2005
kanny wrote:
Oh yeah! 2000 and 2004 Olympic marathon champions. 1993 and 1997 World Champions.
So basically nothing outside of Asia since 2005? It’s 2018 just in case you forgot...
where are the top 20-25 finishers results.........cant find them anywhere
patti wrote:
SHOUT TO AMY!!!
Way to Go!
You Rock!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
So looking forward to seeing you in 2020!
+1
How’s your training going Patti?
The Facts wrote:
Rupp is a hell of a marathon runner(closing a 2:09.20 race with a last 10k of 28:30 is incredible and very few if any outside of Kipchoge has that ability)
Are you joking? Sure, Rupp closed a very slow marathon quickly. Great.
Every single sub-2:06 guy in the world would be expected to run it in that fast after jogging to 20 miles on "US Domestic Pace." Literally dozens of Kenyan men have "has that ability."
I'm sure this has already been posted, but just in case: complete start to finish HD coverage in English:
Engwish
he's not a special snowflake wrote:
The Facts wrote:
Rupp is a hell of a marathon runner(closing a 2:09.20 race with a last 10k of 28:30 is incredible and very few if any outside of Kipchoge has that ability)
Are you joking? Sure, Rupp closed a very slow marathon quickly. Great.
Every single sub-2:06 guy in the world would be expected to run it in that fast after jogging to 20 miles on "US Domestic Pace." Literally dozens of Kenyan men have "has that ability."
You just deep-sixed "Rupp = 2:09" narrative.
Nicely, thank you...I'm so pleased.!
And thank you for asking. Seven minutes a mile is tough..lol!!!!
A couple of setbacks, not injury, weaknesses being strengthen. Time away from hills and fast stuff , I'm paying the fiddler now.
Back to doing pushups, ab work, gym stuff on a regular basis now along with, get this...balance work and isometrics adding breath work as well...yup..Hubby too. Though his progress is better than mine at the moment.
Hearing the results of Amy's run in Tokyo made me smile eaar to ear!
As I know, not only did she work very hard, her response to the workload along with her growing confidence and being more self assured I find inspirational and hopeful for America Womens running.
I passed the news it along to Molly..though I'm sure she heard before I did.
I do hope to see her at Boston!!
Taro wrote:
It's Egun wrote:
japanese cheat out if their a**es, it's their culture.
Japanese T&F doping busts: 0 (zero, zilch, nada, nai) in all of recorded human history
American T&F doping busts: innumerable, and counting
So tell me again, my verbally challenged little friend -- whose culture is corrupt?
Please try again.
May 24, 2013:
Kaori Yoshida was stripped of her fourth-place finish in December’s Honolulu Marathon on Thursday, when the Japan Anti-Doping Agency revealed she had tested positive for a banned substance.
Yoshida, 32, received a one-year suspension from the agency after testing positive for the performance-enhancing drug erythropoietin (EPO) at the Honolulu race. The ban is retroactive from Jan. 18.
According to the agency, Yoshida had received medication from a doctor in November to treat anemia (just like 2:05 Kenyan marathoner Wilson Erupe only used EPO...to treat his anemia...which was caused by a recent episode of malaria)... and it was unknown to her the prescription contained... EPO.
Considering the circumstances of her first drug offense, what would normally be a two-year suspension... was reduced to a single year.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2013/05/24/more-sports/track-field/marathon-runner-yoshida-gets-one-year-doping-ban/#.WpMC02aZNBwhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/13/first-doping-case-of-2018-winter-olympics-sees-japanese-athlete-sent-homeha ha ha
he's not a special snowflake wrote:
The Facts wrote:
Rupp is a hell of a marathon runner(closing a 2:09.20 race with a last 10k of 28:30 is incredible and very few if any outside of Kipchoge has that ability)
Are you joking? Sure, Rupp closed a very slow marathon quickly. Great.
Every single sub-2:06 guy in the world would be expected to run it in that fast after jogging to 20 miles on "US Domestic Pace." Literally dozens of Kenyan men have "has that ability."
LOL then why could none of the sub 2:06 guys in that exact same race keep up with Rupp?
Does anyone know ... wrote:
https://twitter.com/jgault13/status/967588793053335552Well done big boy wrote:
Does that put her #3 US all time then?
Yes.
She is #3 on the all-time list behind Kastor...and Hasay...and Flanagan... and Samuelson.
You are close enough... because at LetsRun.com....5 = 3
Who is correct?
Answer:
The correct time for Ms. Amy Cragg is 2:21:42
Ms. Cragg now has a marathon PR only 28 seconds slower than the 2:21:14 marathon PR of her training partner Ms. Shalane Flanagan.
Ms. Flanagan and Ms. Cragg are now the fastest female marathon training partners in the entire history of the United States.
https://www.facebook.com/hypo2/photos/a.181731141864880.32731.154386924599302/902644203106900/?type=3http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/08/amy-cragg-ends-americas-34-year-medal-drought-womens-marathon-worlds-snagging-surprising-bronze-london/http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/11/shalane-flanagan-wins-2017-new-york-city-marathon-1st-american-winner-40-years/The American women’s filed at Boston is loaded. Should be exciting. Bummed that I won’t get to watch it but if you tell me where you are going to stand i’ll be sure to give you a high five as I go by.
Hi A. Johnny,
I'll be at the expo. Finish line stands.
The guy said major marathons. Just responding to his statement. How many Americans have won major marathons outside of the US?
Big Mac 1 wrote:
kanny wrote:
4 Tokyo winners since 2007
6 straight Berlin winners 2000-2005
So basically nothing outside of Asia since 2005? It’s 2018 just in case you forgot...
