Live from New York

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

fred wrote:

Why hype a jogger? The 110-120 mile a week thing isn't working.

What results from her would show you it is "working"?

I agree that form is hard to watch.

As Mister Canova said, once the house is built, you better start extending the speed.

If 17:50 for 3 miles is extending the speed, she better quit.

I smile reading these Hannah Storm comments. If you guys like her now, you'd be drooling 20-25 years ago. She was pretty radiant beaming from the screen in the 90s.

J. P. wrote:

Ms. Storm is lovely to look at.

Rojo - got any results yet, top 10 at least?

Can't find live top 10 on NYRR, very annoying.

MEN

1. Stanley Biwott, Kenya, 2:10:34

2. Geoffery Kamworor, Kenya, 2:10:48

3. Lelisa Desisa, Ethipoia, 2:12:10

4. Wilson Kipsang, Kenya, 2:12:45

5. Yemane Tsegay, Ethiopia, 2:13:24

6. Yuki Kawauchi, Japan, 2:13:29

7. Meb Keflezighi, U.S., 2:13:32

8. Craig Leon, U.S., 2:15:16

9. Birhanu Dare Kemal, Ethiopia, 2:15:40

10. Kevin Chelimo, Kenya, 2:15:49

RELATED: Biwott, Keitany Wins 2015 NYC Marathon Titles

WOMEN

1. Mary Keitany, Kenaya, 2:24:25

2. Aselefech Mergia, Ethiopia, 2:25:32

3. Tigist Tufa, Ethiopia, 2:25:50

4. Sara Moreira, Portugal, 2:25:53

5. Christelle Daunay, France, 2:26:57

6. Priscah Jeptoo, Kenya, 2:27:03

7. Laura Thweatt, U.S., 2:28:23

8. Jelena Prokopcuka, Latvia, 2:28:46

9. Anna Incerti, Italy, 2:33:13

10. Carolina Rotich, Kenya, 2:33:19

Read more at

http://running.competitor.com/2015/11/new-york-city-marathon/2015-new-york-city-marathon-top-10-finishers_138830#2XwPtpObAkyxAmQJ.99

Ambergris wrote:

It's the Russian "system" v. the Kenyan "wild west". We won't even have a chance to know the real situation until Kenya gets out-of-competition blood testing. And meanwhile the Ethios operate out of huge "black box".

Make no mistake, putting the Russians on a "blacklist", whether fair or not, is a HUGE precedent in the battle against PEDs.

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

Sorry, even if many Kenyas were doping, that is nothing like a doping SYSTEM organized and covered up by the actual Russian Government. Think a bit.

Sounds like we're agreed on most counts!

been there, done that wrote:

It's true that the officials can be officious pricks, and it's true that Mr. D. Katz (the guy who moved them back) actually is an officious prick by nature, but honestly, you don't want celebrating runners in front of the finish line if you can help it.

Agreed. Officials send them trotting this way and that for the cameras then act like Ds when they aren't in exactly the right place at the right time.

Steve on a cell in Brooklyn wrote:

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

Who is this family posing with the medallists but not even bothering to shake hands or so much as look at them?

The Rudin family. If you can figure out how this google thing works, look them up and the relationship with the race.

Why Google when it's so easy to gue$$?

one question wrote:

NativeSon wrote:

True,

Kamworor will come through in 2017. He is the next big thing from Iten. At 22, he has achieved a lot!

It's good that Biwott finally nailed it. He always loses it in the last four or so miles adn today, he wasn't going to let it slip . He kept looking back for Kamworor.

Did Kamworor run the 5k/10k first like some are suggesting Hadley do?

Yes.

Dolt.

If i missed my PB by 4-8 mins i'd be devastated...unless i was doing a light workout for 20+ miles, then a brisk tempo for the last 20+ mins or so to earn a big payday. Is this the way the majors are trending?

It seems like the East Africans are colluding to run slow for most of the race so they will be fresh to run another marathon soon enough to get another big payday. Desisa in his 4th marathon almost 8 mins off his PB and gets 3rd/$40,000?! Come on! For some reason Kawauchi in his 9th marathon getting $12,500 for 6th irks me less.

And why not, dang those East Africans are clever, they know a good thing when they see it. No one else can really push them, unless we throw in a Ryan Hall to do some foolish front running like in Boston. We need some old time hammers back, like Khannouchi or Steve Jones (sub 62min first half in Chicago).

Anyway, i suppose good for global economy to push money around from USA/Europe/Japan into the East Africa economy. A new slant on Running for Charity.

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

Ambergris wrote:

It's the Russian "system" v. the Kenyan "wild west". We won't even have a chance to know the real situation until Kenya gets out-of-competition blood testing. And meanwhile the Ethios operate out of huge "black box".

Make no mistake, putting the Russians on a "blacklist", whether fair or not, is a HUGE precedent in the battle against PEDs.

Sounds like we're agreed on most counts!

Yep. And as a final point as far as P Jeptoo is concerned, she was represented by Rosa, who is currently banned by AK, while the Russian agent doesn't have that (official) black mark.

Fighting PEDs is the athletic equivalent of fighting a military insurgency. Suspicion and subterfuge are weapons as much as the actual testing, and for every measure taken, there will be a countermeasure as long as there is profit to be made. I feel like the Kenyan marathoners, at least on the men's side, have been getting away with a LOT, relative to their track counterparts, anyway. But that is just a suspicion ;)

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

NYRR FTW! wrote:

Great job by the NYRR official making sure Biwott didn't get to have an authentic moment to celebrate and pushing him back to the start finish line to fulfill media duties.

Usual garbage from those officious pricks. They also screwed up the finishing tape and sent multiple top-5 runners down the other side of the road.

Multiple top-5 runners. So that would be up to 5 of the top finishers ?

This is interesting.

It could be so.

Either they could be colluding to go slower through the half or everybody is spooked enough to get off PEDs and without the drugs this is as fast as they can run.

Dwayne wrote:

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

Usual garbage from those officious pricks. They also screwed up the finishing tape and sent multiple top-5 runners down the other side of the road.

Multiple top-5 runners. So that would be up to 5 of the top finishers ?

Wow, so runners are smart.

Multiple: It happened more than once. Wasn't a once-off mistake but repeated screwing up.

Top-5: It happened to placings that should have been handled better, not joggers coming in at 2:2X.

Great post.

A race instead of a time trial is a good thing, but it is definitely more interesting if it starts before Fifth Avenue. Guys like Mutai, Ramaala and Meb have all blown the race wide open from early out.

BolderBoulder wrote:

Based on the tracker it's probably safe to say Alana Hadley Dnfed. It's ashame really, if she would just finish one marathon regardless of her time it would show a lot more to the race directors. She's making a joke of her potentially very short marathoning career.

Watching Hadley running up the bridge just before 13.1, dropping out was a good decision. She was clearly having problem, running was unbalanced, favoring one side. The longer she ran the higher the risk of further injury. It's unfortunate but I thought she should have dropped out right then, probably even earlier. It's not a question of time.

How often does a person with a number on their bib (rather than their name) finish in the top ten at New York?

Very cool sub-text of today's race.

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

Nice shot of Kawauchi in his usual histrionics not looking at Meb when the veteran congratulates him.

Not true. Kawauchi is class act. You, however, are a dolt as you like to call others.

What's a salaad? Same as a salaaad? Trying to imposter the original saladbar?

I was one of those guys in yellow. We were reporting real time race info to production. Elites had #s on their backs, so that was simple. Due to the slow pace, many sub-elites were in the original pack. We had a difficult time reading their bibs because they were in the front and it took time to weave through.