Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

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Maybeeee wrote:

It is quite possible that her comment "maybe I have a chance" was regarding simply finishing the marathon, as it was her first full marathon. I don't know if she was planning to use this time to qualify for Boston, as her comment regarding the Boston Marathon was made long before she ran A1A. It could be possible she didn't think she was going to be able to finish all 26.2 miles and cut the course because she was embarrassed to admit she failed. She had posted all about the marathon on fb before it started.

I do think she cut the course and should be disqualified, but that does not mean she absolutely cut the course for a nefarious reason.

Why do people like you post this crap?

It's obvious she knowingly cheated.

Quit making excuses for someone you have never met.

She cheated. She knowingly cheated. She smugly cheated.

And she took at dump at mile 20 and posted a selfie bragging she was going to BQ.

At least our pal Mikey had the sense to not draw attention to him self (well, on race day, anyways).

Six degrees of Kevin Beacon. Connect Mike Rossi. GO!

You should geht a medal for thar post. Like from Boston or such.

As I said a few pages back, this speculation on subjects that have been censored is going to result at the very least in this thread having the offending pages removed or deletion of the entire thread.

Whose hands would that play into ? How many little "free speech" outbursts is that worth ?

A while back we had the outbreak of Drama Llamas, now we have another outbreak of something else unwanted and counterproductive.

And why do people like you think everything is so black and white? Are you going to publicly shame a girl who signed up for a 5k for fun with her friends and then cut the course short because she was tired and couldn't finish? She cheated. She cut a course short. Are you going to scour half marathon results as well? You claim she posted about a BQ at 20 miles, but you have no idea if that is even what she was referring to. So my questions about her mindset are unacceptable, but your assumptions are to be taken as gospel?

If this outing cheaters is one size fits all, where do you stop? This woman cut the course short, she should be disqualified. It is in the RD's hands now. Instead of slamming anyone's opinions who do you match yours, it's probably time to go back to scouring race results looking for the next person to pile on.

I could see that maybe she didn't go into the day planning to cheat..If that were the case she could have gone out another mile and hit the 30k mat and possibly still BQ.

But, she posted the selfie at mile 20 after cutting the course trolling for attention. someone who decides to cut a course and feels instant regret doesn't post pictures at the finish line, or post pictures of their medal after the fact. or they don't deny it when confronted.

I can feel pity for her for the medical stuff..just like I feel bad for Litton because of his son's illness. That doesn't make cheating any more forgiveable.

This wasn't her 'Make a Wish' where she gets to run around and act like she BQ'd. she cheated, same as Rossi. And guess what, if it weren't for the initial thread, I guarantee she would be cheating next year as well. maybe we at least prevented future cheating.

Experienced Kip Watcher wrote:

As I said a few pages back, this speculation on subjects that have been censored is going to result at the very least in this thread having the offending pages removed or deletion of the entire thread.

Whose hands would that play into ? How many little "free speech" outbursts is that worth ?

A while back we had the outbreak of Drama Llamas, now we have another outbreak of something else unwanted and counterproductive.

Counterproductive compared to what? All of the research on Rossi seems to have been completed and the ultimate decision will be up to the race director. I will be pissed if the Rossi thread is deleted, but I can't see that happening as it has likely brought more traffic and many new people to Letsrun, which increases the Brojos' ad revenue. This must be their true criteria for keeping cheater threads alive. If the thread has the chance of garnering media interest that may draw more people to the site, like the ones on Kip Litton and Mike Rossi, the thread stays alive, if there's a chance that the cheater may come across to the general public as sympathetic, making Letsrunners look like a bunch of internet bullies, it gets deleted.

yet another cynic wrote:

Counterproductive compared to what? All of the research on Rossi seems to have been completed and the ultimate decision will be up to the race director. I will be pissed if the Rossi thread is deleted, but I can't see that happening as it has likely brought more traffic and many new people to Letsrun, which increases the Brojos' ad revenue. This must be their true criteria for keeping cheater threads alive. If the thread has the chance of garnering media interest that may draw more people to the site, like the ones on Kip Litton and Mike Rossi, the thread stays alive, if there's a chance that the cheater may come across to the general public as sympathetic, making Letsrunners look like a bunch of internet bullies, it gets deleted.

I tend to agree with this. Over at Runner's World, cheater threads about average joes almost always get nuked, at least the posts that name names. The Mike Rossi thread is still up (though it was temporarily locked), presumably so they could link to it in their article and generate traffic.

Those are very fair points. I honestly hadn't considered that if she got away with it, who knows what she would do in races in the future.

It's just the nature of these threads can become concerning when they devolve into personal attacks on someone that we do not actually know.

Doubler:

Could you help me?

I have this uncomfortable feeling that YOU are Mike Rossi.

Yesterday you said (in the now deleted thread) you had registered your name "years before Mike Rossi started running."

You were asked to provide evidence of this - to provide a link to a post you made on Let's Run that pre-dates the Mike Rossi thread.

And you never did (as far as I know).

So, could you help me by providing that link now please?

I have the uncomfortable feeling that you (Mike) are generating the majority of posts on this thread now - not only Doubler - but many of the others too.

So could you put my mind at rest by providing evidence of a Doubler post that pre-dates this thread?

I appreciate your help Doubler!

I

hmmmmm .....

a quick search of the forum shows only a "doubler" not registered name on a thread from 2011 about double runs in a day:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3979224

otherwise the "Doubler" only comes up on this thread that I can see

so is a liar calling people cheats?

George31321 wrote:

Doubler:

Could you help me?

I have this uncomfortable feeling that YOU are Mike Rossi.

Yesterday you said (in the now deleted thread) you had registered your name "years before Mike Rossi started running."

You were asked to provide evidence of this - to provide a link to a post you made on Let's Run that pre-dates the Mike Rossi thread.

And you never did (as far as I know).

So, could you help me by providing that link now please?

I have the uncomfortable feeling that you (Mike) are generating the majority of posts on this thread now - not only Doubler - but many of the others too.

So could you put my mind at rest by providing evidence of a Doubler post that pre-dates this thread?

I appreciate your help Doubler!

I

I did reply - told you to search yourself.

I posted in the Litton thread. Have fun digging through there. Or email . Doubleer came from a thread about running doubles. Email brojos and ask when my name was registered.

Really, the obsessing about aliases is something I just don't get.

Especially since I've posted multiple times that Mike is definitely guilty.

Inspector Clouseau wrote:

hmmmmm .....

a quick search of the forum shows only a "doubler" not registered name on a thread from 2011 about double runs in a day:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3979224

otherwise the "Doubler" only comes up on this thread that I can see

Not sure if that was me or not--but how can you tell that's not registered?

so is a liar calling people cheats?

I have an old email from wejo hawking tshirts from 2012.

But I don't feel inclined to save it so you can verify..

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Now, I'll accept your apology.

And please donate that $100 you promised from the other thread to a charity that supports epilepsy research.

NowFindJimmyHoffa wrote:

elephino wrote:

Never did get an explanation why we can't talk about the powerlifting miler who continues to profit from his lies.

Who is this powerlifting miler???? Color me intrigued.

Claims to have invented the 'Hybrid Athlete' training methods. He says he can squat 600+ lbs and ALSO run a 4:30 / sub-4:30 / 4:18 / 4:15 mile, depending on which post you, or he, believes. All while intermingling training, only running part time and maintaining a weight of 230 lbs.....

Finally some definitive proof of something in this thread.

OK - thanks for the link.

That puts my mind a little more at ease - I see that "Doubler" was registered prior to the Mike Rossi thread.

I still don't know if "Doubler" is or is not Mike Rossi - that's still to be determined.

I will read through your "Kip" posts to see if that helps me think you're not Mike.

As far as the $100 offer yesterday (in the deleted thread) - that was to prove that you and "I H8 cheaters" were not posting from the same location yesterday - not that Doubler didn't pre-date the Mike Rossi thread. So no.