Video Highlights 2015 Boston Marathon
April 20, 2015
he cheated wrote:
He said he had his phone. If the location services were on, Google would have a map of where he has been.
Good grief! They're not going to subpoena his phone records, or EZ Pass records, or traffic camera footage. It's not a murder case or terrorism.
The race organizers have enough evidence to DQ him if they choose to. They don't need to call in the freakin FBI to investigate cheating in a recreational running race.
Sara, just saw that Hal linked to your blog post in the comments! You're famous and expect some more traffic on your site!
lolzilla firefox wrote:
SaraB wrote:Sorry but i'm a bit dumb, who are the brojos?
Robert and Weldon Johnson he creators of LetsRun :)
I've emailed the spreadsheet to both of them
Of course not....
But that data would be available for Rossi to provide as proof that he completed the marathon. Him not showing that data is more evidence that it does not exist because he did not run the marathon.
gatorade&vodka wrote:
Sara, just saw that Hal linked to your blog post in the comments! You're famous and expect some more traffic on your site!
It's already gone crazy, normally my posts get a couple of hundred views. The Rossi post has had 1,357 so far. I should probably check for typos :)
Pressure should be put on BAA to tighten up their standards for BQ races - there should have been at least one other set of timing mats on this course. With an active relay where participants provide their own transportation, this race is easy to cut. Our local marathon (Lakefront in Milwaukee) has a relay. I started injured and had to drop out at the 12 mile mark, it was very easy to snag a ride with a relay team and be to the finish area within 25 minutes (Lakefront has additional timing mats along the way). If BAA threatens to pull the LVM qualifier status for next year, that might put some heat on the RD.
Kiki1974 wrote:
Pressure should be put on BAA to tighten up their standards for BQ races - there should have been at least one other set of timing mats on this course. With an active relay where participants provide their own transportation, this race is easy to cut. Our local marathon (Lakefront in Milwaukee) has a relay. I started injured and had to drop out at the 12 mile mark, it was very easy to snag a ride with a relay team and be to the finish area within 25 minutes (Lakefront has additional timing mats along the way). If BAA threatens to pull the LVM qualifier status for next year, that might put some heat on the RD.
The race director for Lehigh Valley Marathon has stated to the media that the race occurring next fall will have timing mats deployed at intermediate points along the course.
relayrunner wrote:
SlowerThanYou wrote:Forgive me if this has been suggested earlier...I have read through the entire thread, but since it is so long it is completely possible that I missed this.
In much of the northeast, we have the EZPass system. It tracks where you got on and off the highway and at what times (think of it as a timing chip for your car instead of on your race bib). I am not familiar with the roadways in that part of Pennsylvania, but if MR did, indeed, drive his car from the Start to the Finish, then there may well be a record of it with the Pennsylvania Highway Dept.
And no, he couldn't say that it was his wife or someone else driving his car bc they snap a pic of every car as it goes through the tollbooth. The driver is clearly visible in the photo. And this is one photographer he could NOT avoid.
Just a thought.
there aren't any toll roads between the start and the finish.
And even if there were, it wouldn't matter. This is not a criminal investigation.
Dolomite wrote:
relayrunner wrote:there aren't any toll roads between the start and the finish.
And even if there were, it wouldn't matter. This is not a criminal investigation.
It should be.
Think of the children.
Kiki1974 wrote:
If BAA threatens to pull the LVM qualifier status for next year, that might put some heat on the RD.
That's not how this works. Boston does not bestow nor take away "qualifier status" to a marathon. Perhaps you are arguing that they should, but that sounds like a massive logistical headache for them. Presumably they would rather worry about putting on their own marathon rather than policing marathons around the world.
I WANT BLOOOOOOOD!!!
MIKE ROSSI IS GOING DOWN!!!
SaraB wrote:
Both of his posts have been screenprinted and added to the evidence spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0f2sI8FvoD4nFriEngQQXhwBqYbVLq0V5VjI2ARRp4/edit#gid=0
Do you really have nothing better to do with your time?
Doktor Freud wrote:
SaraB wrote:Both of his posts have been screenprinted and added to the evidence spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0f2sI8FvoD4nFriEngQQXhwBqYbVLq0V5VjI2ARRp4/edit#gid=0Do you really have nothing better to do with your time?
Not everyone has extra time. Some of us take longer than 3:11:45 to complete a marathon/re-park our car.
Doktor Freud wrote:
SaraB wrote:Both of his posts have been screenprinted and added to the evidence spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0f2sI8FvoD4nFriEngQQXhwBqYbVLq0V5VjI2ARRp4/edit#gid=0Do you really have nothing better to do with your time?
Yes, lots of stuff. I could, for example, go round lots of different forums asking people if they have nothing better to do with their time. Or maybe just troll the trolls? Do you have nothing better to do with your time Doktor Freud than to ask me if I have nothing better to do with my time? Then you could ask me if I have nothing better to do that ask you if you have nothing better to do than ask me, who asked you, who asked me... We could keep this going forever in a trolling vortex.
I think the spreadsheet is great. As long as the cheat keeps spouting off and not providing proof of running we should have one single place to see it all. As he says once the decision is handed down by LV he will make everything public. I for one can't wait!
Ahh - I see - thought there was a higher standard in place than certification
You are wrong about this. Boston actually has kind of ridiculous standards at times for races who wish to be Boston Qualifiers. They even demand results in a very specific format or the runners in a race will not get their qualifiers approved.
gatorade&vodka wrote:
Kiki1974 wrote:If BAA threatens to pull the LVM qualifier status for next year, that might put some heat on the RD.
That's not how this works. Boston does not bestow nor take away "qualifier status" to a marathon. Perhaps you are arguing that they should, but that sounds like a massive logistical headache for them. Presumably they would rather worry about putting on their own marathon rather than policing marathons around the world.
I’m skeptical about the hoped for DQ simply because Via staff asked usatf to do an investigation. Contrast that with what they do at Vermont city: Joe (d2xccoach) sees an obvious cheat, and removes him from the results. No punt to usatf, no delay. Usatf will likely do nothing about the request. They have a national championship meet and tons of other stuff to worry about, and won’t want to deal with a slow runner who won no money and took no PEDs. Via race leadership need to step up and make the right decision, and the fact that they punted on it hints that they don’t want to do it. They don’t need advice on what to do with a cheater. It’s their race – they should take ownership of it.If you want to get Mike DQed, Via needs to feel pressure to take decisive action against him. Perhaps the threat losing their status as a Boston qualifier would help. If I were the BAA, I wouldn’t let a race that turns a blind eye to cheating be a qualifier.
Kiki1974 wrote:
Pressure should be put on BAA to tighten up their standards for BQ races - ...... If BAA threatens to pull the LVM qualifier status for next year, that might put some heat on the RD.
gatorade&vodka wrote:
Kiki1974 wrote:If BAA threatens to pull the LVM qualifier status for next year, that might put some heat on the RD.
That's not how this works. Boston does not bestow nor take away "qualifier status" to a marathon. Perhaps you are arguing that they should, but that sounds like a massive logistical headache for them. Presumably they would rather worry about putting on their own marathon rather than policing marathons around the world.
E-zackly. The BAA is not in the business of providing global race management oversight. That's a compliance matter for USATF, AIMS, or IAAF.
Doktor Freud wrote:[/b
Do you really have nothing better to do with your time?
Go back to the Runner's World forum.