Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

Oh snap!

I also included a clickable link in my email. To the receiver, the link looked like it went to an online wedding announcement/event page. Once the link is clicked it logs the IP address. The IP address it logged was the same, 98.235.239.44

Now I have a contract for a DJ sitting in my inbox for a fake wedding :)

IP ADDRESS wrote:

I was curious if Mike was the one posting in the board using fake names so I sent an email to his event company pretending I needed a DJ for a wedding.

Does anyone have the IP's from the fake accounts?

Return-Path:

Received: from mail-vn0-f46.google.com (mail-vn0-f46.google.com. [98.235.239.44])

This is a dead end. Seriously.

If you wanted to make it work, then you are getting into a gray area no one needs to attempt. The facts established are sufficient.

trademark etc wrote:

You would be subject to a lawsuit for using the intellectual property (design) of another without consent. If you freehand a parody without any copying, scanning, etc. you would probably get away with it although you might still have to defend yourself. Ironically, the more you mocked him the better chance you'd have if sued.

With all that money he makes as a DJ? All the money the illustrator operator earns?

Change the name to Rosie, "Drive, Dude, Drive!" and if Mike were ever that industrious, (he's not) it's protected under parody.

Not an IP Guy Either wrote:

Does a matching IP address mean same computer or modem or house or internet provider or neighbourhood?

Help a brutha out here.

No. Really, this is a dead end.

Newbie Runner wrote:

Hit a nerve, gramps? Something you're not telling us?

oldbie runner wrote:

I am sorry that you are ignorant. You were not there. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a hint for you: When you are completely ignorant on a topic, don't talk (post) about it.

Well yeah, now that you mention it. Ignoramuses posting about things that they are completely ignorant of does kind of hit a nerve. Sorry that I did not tell you that earlier.

Oh yeah, also not a gramps. Anything else you'd like to display your ignorance about?

Whotheheckisthisguy wrote:

oh my god, really?? Really??!!?!?!?!!?

Not an IP Guy wrote:

From Rojo

This doesn't mean what you want it to mean. It might. You don't "know" because you don't know how the address is being NATed on Comcast's side.

NATing makes it a big unknown. Please don't jump to a conclusion here.

But, it would be interesting to hear from Rojo if the IP address is still posting. Probably reading.

runDirtyrun wrote:

Not an IP Guy Either wrote:

Does a matching IP address mean same computer or modem or house or internet provider or neighbourhood?

Help a brutha out here.

No. Really, this is a dead end.

No, this really isn't a dead end. Do you know at all how IP addresses work?

As a minor tangent, have you noted who promoted Dane's book on the back cover? Dick Beardsley, Joe Henderson, & Dave McGillivary.Why I know is a bit embarrasing, knew someone who knew him and he was at the 2010 Kiawah Marathon selling his tome.

ROSSI RUIZ wrote:

not a meme maker wrote:

I'm disappointed nobody has made a meme yet with that picture.

I did come across these memes - dane but they do have more recent ROSSI references:

http://memegenerator.net/Danus

Agreed. Having looked at all the photos taken just down the road from the start (and obviously he is not in any of them), I believe that he hung around the start without his bib on. Perhaps even in different clothing. Thirty seconds after the gun goes off and amid the excitement, he swipes the bib over the line (perhaps hidden by a towel or t-shirt) and then he just walks away. Given that there is a relay that started at the same time there had to be many people (runners of later legs) yelling words of encouragement and then walking off to the parking lot.

Then just drive down the road and jump in at the last exchange zone or use the port-a-potty method discussed earlier.

I do not believe he did any running early in the race.

IP ADDRESS wrote:

I also included a clickable link in my email. To the receiver, the link looked like it went to an online wedding announcement/event page. Once the link is clicked it logs the IP address. The IP address it logged was the same, 98.235.239.44

Now I have a contract for a DJ sitting in my inbox for a fake wedding :)

Ok, huge gray area here that I don't condone. At all.

I posted this much earlier, and it's not some kind of Internet secret. IF the URL sent was unique to him as described, that would confirm that is Rosie's current IP address.

Again, for me, that bit of social engineering was not right. There are enough facts.

No, this is far from being a dead end. This means that the computer that hosts Rossi's DJ Wedding company said the following things. The odds of it being anyone other than MR are infinitesimal. Matching the ip address is a huge score.

no, you're wrong wrote:

runDirtyrun wrote:

No. Really, this is a dead end.

No, this really isn't a dead end. Do you know at all how IP addresses work?

Yes, but I was trying not to encourage anyone to go down the social engineering path. Which you did.

For me, that's not cool.

MRisinitnow wrote:

No, this is far from being a dead end. This means that the computer that hosts Rossi's DJ Wedding company said the following things. The odds of it being anyone other than MR are infinitesimal. Matching the ip address is a huge score.

That was accomplished using social engineering. This is not illegal in any sense, but now, IMO, hardly any better than Rosie's cheating.

That's just wrong. There were enough facts.

This is maybe the fourth time I've posted the same thing, so that's it for me.

Now the Rosie can play the victim card. Good job everybody.

There's your lever Rosie. Go for it. Wail and moan about being a victim.

Everyone always says when you cheat, you cheat yourself:

so here, if he did not cheat it is a shame for him, and if he did then he has stolen from himself and those close to him any true enjoyment of a Boston finish, and every race or running club event he ever attends will know of him or he will have to wonder who knows and just isn't saying anything, he just potentially traded away a lifetime of enjoyment for himself

Once everyone has finished throwing accusations and insults at him in the pillory of the internet, maybe we can all remember that the real thing isn't that we can catch all cheats or prevent them, but we can do the right thing ourselves and pat people on the back who deserve it more often than we kick people who are down even if they deserve it.

That said, he does not seem like one of these people and no one is coming forward for him to say so, but most of us know people who if they told me they ran a marathon and they did not show in the photos I would believe them, might find it hard but I would. Those people are rare though and cheats are common. Pillory away but do not let this guy steal your humanity.

runDirtyrun wrote:

IP ADDRESS wrote:

I also included a clickable link in my email. To the receiver, the link looked like it went to an online wedding announcement/event page. Once the link is clicked it logs the IP address. The IP address it logged was the same, 98.235.239.44

Now I have a contract for a DJ sitting in my inbox for a fake wedding :)

Ok, huge gray area here that I don't condone. At all.

I posted this much earlier, and it's not some kind of Internet secret. IF the URL sent was unique to him as described, that would confirm that is Rosie's current IP address.

Again, for me, that bit of social engineering was not right. There are enough facts.

I completely agree that the method of obtaining the IP Adress was wrong and I don't condone that either.

Just because Rosie is dishonest and a scumbag doesn't mean we have to be.

Judging from his recent FB comments, the guy is definitely guilty. If I was him and legit ran that 3:11, I wouldn't evade technical questions and would provide every piece of evidence possible. Telling his FB friends that accusers need to prove he didn't run it is beyond ridiculous. Offer up all you've got.. gps info, cell phone usage, pictures, friends/family who can back you.. do this for at least your friends. I would at least want to protect my integrity for close friends and family. You are making such an a @@ out of yourself my friend, those FB posts are bananas. I hope you keep defending yourself though so the details and inconsistencies come out faster.

Take this advice seriously. The longer you fight this the worse it's going to get. People in your life are going to feel very betrayed by your persistent lying. If you are a real man, then man up and come clean. This is speaking to your character big time. You are in Lance Armstrong land right now... I just hope when you are forced to man up you just call it what it was, a terrible decision and not try to justify it somehow. May be this serve as a lesson, at least in running.. don't mess with our sport.

NEW PHOTO INFORMATION:

So I went back to the bridge photos, and this time I sorted by TIME STAMP. It is absolutely incredible how many photos were taken at this point in the race. As you can see below, the bridge rolls border on video evidence:

Before you read below, keep the following in mind:

(1) The bridge photo of Douglas Rendall is time stamped "7:59 PM". Maybe this was supposed to be "AM", but it doesn't really matter -- the time stamps are all internally consistent.

(2) The first bridge photo taken at 7:57 contains a group of runners that were all well ahead of Rossi. There is no possibility he hit the bridge ahead of this group.

(3) The last bridge photo taken at 8:04 contains runners that finished well behind Rossi. He could not have been more than five minutes behind Rendall at this point, especially given that they allegedly started and finished together.

Here are the number of photos taken on the bridge during each relevant minute:

7:57 -- 40 photos

7:58 -- 52 photos

7:59 -- 41 photos

I am surprised that people are questioning his 5K time. I am 41 and am fairly new to running. I started the summer of 2013 and I ran two sub 22 minute 5Ks. (21:23 and 21:34) My one half marathon was just under 1:47 and I could NEVER run a full in 3:11. EVER. A sub-22 minute 5K on a flat course is actually not a difficult task.