Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

Hobby Ironmanner wrote:

What does running ability have to do with the ability to manage a race?

Doesn't really, anymore than coaching. It does add to the understanding of the sport. In Barb's case she had no real idea what that 3:11:45 meant because of her lack of running knowledge and experience. Pathetic.

The new "offer" actually benefits our cheater less and still lacks the teeth to prevent him from cheating.

He gets 100K either way, but in the new offer it's stipulated that the payout will be divided over 10 years. That's a MUCH worse deal for him. Sure, he'd like to be responsible for another 100K to VIA, but he'd much rather have 100K in today's dollars, not eroded by inflation over the next decade.

To me this offer doesn't at all supersede the previous offer. He could still appear the results for some BS Via-like marathon with a sub 3:11, notify Letsrun after the fact, and claim he's owed 100K. He thinks he doesn't have to prove he ran; in his mind the burden of proof is on Letsrun to prove he didn't run. We could easily end up wtih another weak RD with no back bone that would rather take the easy road than stand up to AOL.com lawyer.

I'm not sure how it would hold up in court, but I'd still be a bit worried if I were the Brojos. The only way I think you could argue the new offer would supersede the old one is if it were to benefit him directly more. This one doesn't; it actually benefits him much less.

The original offer had a 10 year payment schedule toohttp://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/05/the-evidence-is-overwhelming-mike-rossi-the-viral-marathon-dad-is-a-marathon-cheat-and-should-never-have-been-on-the-starting-line-in-boston/

SuperCooper123 wrote:

The original offer had a 10 year payment schedule too

I see that now, thanks. I still think this offer doesn't give anything to Rossi that would make it clearly supersede the prior offer. He could pull the same crap that allowed him into Boston and the Brojos could be legally forced to pay.

Huh?

You are making this way more complicated than it is. There is no way on earth anyone is going to award anyone that kind of money without documented proof. Plus, winning an extra 100K for a worthy charity would be a great accomplishment for anyone. Some people here get into these wild conspiracy theories and what-if's and give way more credit where it is not due.

(I doubt MR is thinking about the effects of inflation on the spending power of $100K. I doubt he is going to race a marathon before July and if so wont declare prior or win the challenge.)

I would love to get $100K for replicating my PR or at least $10K for coming within 14 minutes of it. And I would have loved to do a 5K well within my alleged abilities for $10K. He should have been able to do the 5K on any given race day unless actually injured which is/was dubious. Given the alleged workouts put out on his twitter of several 5 mile runs at 6:30-40 pace, the 70 min 10 miler should have been a breeze. I would have invited a film crew headed by Ken to film me on a track with 5 letsrunners and jogged out 10 consecutive 7 min miles since I was supposedly able to do 630s for 5 mile training runs. I would have then, 2 weeks later, run a marathon 14 minutes slower than my pr - that's about 30 sec slower per mile, hugely slower. Bank.

That would be unless I were not able to do so..

max power wrote:

That would be unless I were not able to do so..

And there's the rub.

Happy New Year to everyone including the 15 basement trolls. Love the upping the ante to $200K!!

TheDudeAbides wrote:

max power wrote:

That would be unless I were not able to do so..

And there's the rub.

So, what does the new Rojo challenge attempt to prove that already hasn't been proven? Nothing.

If the goal has been to make everyone aware that Mike Rossi is a liar, 2x cheater and poor excuse for a man and a father, haven't all those articles proven it?

Unless Mike opens up his Twitter account and/or starts talking crap again, the game is over.

Dude chill on the details. He is not going to get it and contract law is pretty straight forward.

Just enjoy the ride.

printer wrote:

TheDudeAbides wrote:

And there's the rub.

So, what does the new Rojo challenge attempt to prove that already hasn't been proven? Nothing.

If the goal has been to make everyone aware that Mike Rossi is a liar, 2x cheater and poor excuse for a man and a father, haven't all those articles proven it?

Unless Mike opens up his Twitter account and/or starts talking crap again, the game is over.

Honestly if they upped it by more, let's say to $1M then it would've gone even more viral in the press, I'm sure that insurance policy wouldn't cost much considering the likelihood of Rossi hitting the time without cheating is next to nothing at this point.

max power wrote:

There is no way on earth anyone is going to award anyone that kind of money without documented proof.

The Brojos could be forced pay him the award him, legally. I think you underestimate our cheater. If he appears in a legit marathon result, and the RD refuses to DQ him, what ground would the Brojos have to stand on to not pay him? The added stipulations of drug testing and notification weren't in the initial offer and I don't think the legal system would allow them to be added later.

He already tried to play the system by picking a charity Turkey Trot.

Cheaters gonna cheat.

bored troLLer wrote:

SuperCooper123 wrote:

The original offer had a 10 year payment schedule too

I see that now, thanks. I still think this offer doesn't give anything to Rossi that would make it clearly supersede the prior offer. He could pull the same crap that allowed him into Boston and the Brojos could be legally forced to pay.

First you claim the new offer is not better than the first because the payment will be spread out over 10 years. Then someone points out that was also the case with the first offer, and you basicly say 'yeah well, but I still think it's not any better'.

The point is that by offering the chance to earn money for charity it would be harder for people who can really run the time they claim to have run to say no to the offer. He will have a harder time explaining why he won't do it. If hè doesn't do it people will rightfully think that hee isn't capable or that hè is a dick for nor doing it for the charity. That's something narcistic Mike will want to avoid so that in fact does make the new challenge more interesting for him.

printer wrote:

Unless Mike opens up his Twitter account and/or starts talking crap again, the game is over.

Pretty sure the game isn't over. Mike knows this to be true.

Reg Fields wrote:

printer wrote:

So, what does the new Rojo challenge attempt to prove that already hasn't been proven? Nothing.

If the goal has been to make everyone aware that Mike Rossi is a liar, 2x cheater and poor excuse for a man and a father, haven't all those articles proven it?

Unless Mike opens up his Twitter account and/or starts talking crap again, the game is over.

Honestly if they upped it by more, let's say to $1M then it would've gone even more viral in the press, I'm sure that insurance policy wouldn't cost much considering the likelihood of Rossi hitting the time without cheating is next to nothing at this point.

Buying an insurance policy (like a hole-in-one competition) requires an upfront payment. The Rojos have no intention to pony up any of their hard earned internet cash. This charade is pure gimmickry. And, you guys are sitting in your parent's basements eating it up.

I have already stated my disdain for MR, but I'm willing to to train the guy if it means that a charity will get money from this stupid prop bet.

printer wrote:

This charade is pure gimmickry. And, you guys are sitting in your parent's basements eating it up.

Yeah but, there's only 8 of them so it doesn't matter.

Haha, Rossi's latest Twitter photo, after a few remarks here about his so called "friends" he's trying to show us he has some.

Rossi you idiot, it's a promo shoot, people don't have to like you or be your friend to stand next you for a promo shoot.

he's a pariah and known cheat in the running community

he's been publicly shamed in his home town

what more do you want?

the challenge is pointless. we all know that he cant and wont accept it.

i think the Mike Rossi story is just about done.

good luck Mike with whatever you do from here...i hope it was worth it.

printer wrote:

This charade is pure gimmickry. And, us guys are sitting in our parent's basements eating it up.

Sorry, meant to correct in last post, but here tis.

Here's a photo of a chick with two dicks.

http://imgur.com/QamHK6q

(Sorry, it was just too easy)

DevilsAdvocate wrote:

printer wrote:

This charade is pure gimmickry. And, us guys are sitting in our parent's basements eating it up.

Sorry, meant to correct in last post, but here tis.

Well, it is a walk out basement.