Official 2014 Oxy HP Performance Thread - Rupp, Centro, Willis, Martinez, and Mackey, and more!

seguro wrote:

I think Rupp let up the last 150m personally. Did anyone see the contact between Birmingham/Osako?

He had a bit of excessive arm movement, but I think he was only concerned about beating Willis since that tweet back during indoors. Yeah I thought a fight might break out, Birmingham looked pretty pissed

Why do people run across the field to cheer the runners? They're going to come back around on the next lap.

seguro wrote:

I think Rupp let up the last 150m personally. Did anyone see the contact between Birmingham/Osako?

Based on my observations, it was clear Rupp got gassed around that time and his form went down the dumps. That is the definition of an implosion. Back in 2012, Rupp would be able to break away after running the previous 400 in that speed, but tonight.....

Honestly makes you seriously question Al Sal peaking him for both indoors and outdoors, but then again this was just a season opener, we still have all summer long.

that's all folks!

Cranberry Juice wrote:

Collis seemed... less excited about beating Rupp than I would have thought. Rupp is a huge deal, only Bernie in the US beats him at 3k+. Does he realize how big a deal it is?

This was a season opener. No one should take this that seriously. It isn't any big meet either like a Diamond League Event. If Collis beats Rupp mid to late summer I am sure he'd be pumped.

True, it is early in the season. Also true: Birmingham 'looked' like a better runner. Rupp is very tight in the shoulders and upright. Of course that hasn't stopped him from posting superior marks over the years, but I was pumped watching Birmingham make his move and knew he would hold on from 200m out because he just 'looked' better than Rupp tonight. I repeat the first point: still early in the season (and hot, and a late start), so who knows?

Perspectivation wrote:

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Rupp is only entered in the 5000. Given all the milers, it'll probably start at aster than 13:20 pace until the final 800, maybe 1000 if Rupp decides to go early. I assume there's no rabbits?

Collis Birmingham is not too shabby from 1500-half marathon. With a rabbit and not overly insane temps it may get down to 13:1X low. Not sure how strong Willis is, but I don't think I'd want him around with 3 or 4 laps to go if the pace is soft.

Birmingham looked strong! I wouldn't put too much emphasis on Rupps race. It was an opener and pretty dang hot out. My guess is he will be looking sharp in a few more races. Scalp for Birmingham, but only a rust buster for Rupp. If I remember right, his first indoor race was not great, but he took off after that.

RunWild wrote:

seguro wrote:

I think Rupp let up the last 150m personally. Did anyone see the contact between Birmingham/Osako?

Based on my observations, it was clear Rupp got gassed around that time and his form went down the dumps. That is the definition of an implosion. Back in 2012, Rupp would be able to break away after running the previous 400 in that speed, but tonight.....

Honestly makes you seriously question Al Sal peaking him for both indoors and outdoors, but then again this was just a season opener, we still have all summer long.

Season opener. Check on Rupp in 6 weeks. .

rojo wrote:

Top men's steeple results here:

http://t.co/NaWWdroNq5

817 for Huling. Great race. First sub 820 in 4 years.

Pretty sure that's the largest margin by an American in a sub-8:20 race.

Impressed that Rupp even ran under these less than perfect conditions. Respect.

Perspectivation wrote:

Perspectivation wrote:

Collis Birmingham is not too shabby from 1500-half marathon. With a rabbit and not overly insane temps it may get down to 13:1X low. Not sure how strong Willis is, but I don't think I'd want him around with 3 or 4 laps to go if the pace is soft.

Birmingham looked strong! I wouldn't put too much emphasis on Rupps race. It was an opener and pretty dang hot out. My guess is he will be looking sharp in a few more races. Scalp for Birmingham, but only a rust buster for Rupp. If I remember right, his first indoor race was not great, but he took off after that.

In the past years sure, this year a 13:01 5k.

garth wrote:

Impressed that Rupp even ran under these less than perfect conditions. Respect.

85 isn't exactly a dealbreaker when it comes to calling off fast times, especially when the summer rolls around and the East Africans are moving away from their 90-95 degree environment that they are used to.

The had seen the women's race slow systematically and might have readjusted the pacing schedule because they hit pretty even splits (it seemed like 2:43/5:15+/8:09/12:51) and then a fast finish. Rowbury commented that her feet had gotten pretty hot by or before half way. It might have been nice to spray the track and let the evaporation cool the surface.

Makhloufi is clean wrote:

Really, they needed a pacer to run 1k? And he couldn't even run the 2:36 he was supposed to run, but ended up in 2:42 and stepped off? Geez

I could have paced...

RunWild wrote:

garth wrote:

Impressed that Rupp even ran under these less than perfect conditions. Respect.

85 isn't exactly a dealbreaker when it comes to calling off fast times, especially when the summer rolls around and the East Africans are moving away from their 90-95 degree environment that they are used to.

It "cooled down" to 85 by race time maybe, but they were waiting and warming up in higher temps. The important part here is, were they acclimated to that? It was in the 60's and 70's in portland earlier in the week.

85 won't feel as bad if you have been in the mid to upper 90's for several days leading up to it. But if you're coming from 60's and 70's, even waiting to warm up when it's in the 90's is going to be draining as your body is trying to acclimate.

It wasn't just Rupp or NOP who was affected, probably a lot of the US based runners. Some more than others.

seguro wrote:

I think Rupp let up the last 150m personally. Did anyone see the contact between Birmingham/Osako?

probably wanted to save himself for the post race workout, indoors he dropped out of a race, then ran a 5 x 1 mile workout. lol

garth wrote:

Impressed that Rupp even ran under these less than perfect conditions. Respect.

then give respect to everyone who ran (not just rupp) the conditions were the same for everyone.

douglas burke wrote:

seguro wrote:

I think Rupp let up the last 150m personally. Did anyone see the contact between Birmingham/Osako?

probably wanted to save himself for the post race workout, indoors he dropped out of a race, then ran a 5 x 1 mile workout. lol

He didn't shut down the last 150, but he did the last 50. And given that they nearly always do a workout after a race early season, yes he probably did do something afterwards.

The 2nd to last split was :59. Anyone got the last lap split?

One thing I noticed.

No one is blasting Montgomery for not doing any of the work and sitting and kicking.

I have no problem with how he raced but just noticed we don't have post after post talking about what a weenie he was for not leading etc. Course that was also the case when Solinksy sat on Rupp in his historic 10k (again I had no problem with how Solinksy raced) Just noticing how different folks are viewed/judged differently,