Pre Classic 2019 (6/30) - official discussion thread

Growler wrote:

Jakob 3:46

Engels 3:47

Jakob and Filip have a long flight in from training camp in Swiss mountains, they run the mile and fly back, they never did something like that before, time difference is 9 hours.

Obligation to Nike is the cause of this.

SprintTriathlon wrote:

Growler wrote:

Jakob 3:46

Engels 3:47

Jakob and Filip have a long flight in from training camp in Swiss mountains, they run the mile and fly back, they never did something like that before, time difference is 9 hours.

Obligation to Nike is the cause of this.

This is what every athlete from US/Canada does for 90% of the DL meets and your already making an excuse for them. They got beat at a home meet, literally a taxi away by to US guys already this season.

USDistanceRunning wrote:

SprintTriathlon wrote:

Jakob and Filip have a long flight in from training camp in Swiss mountains, they run the mile and fly back, they never did something like that before, time difference is 9 hours.

Obligation to Nike is the cause of this.

This is what every athlete from US/Canada does for 90% of the DL meets and your already making an excuse for them. They got beat at a home meet, literally a taxi away by to US guys already this season.

*you're

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That's really poor, man.

Jo72 wrote:

8 women in the field have already broken 8:30 so this would not even be surprising.

Maybe not, but it would be the first time it’s ever happened. The 8th-place “record” is 8:30.00 from Doha ‘14 (Mimi Belete).

Doha 2019 had 6 below. Two of these 6 (Chepkoech and Kite) are not entered in the Pre 3000m. But additionally there are Ayana, Hassan, Tirop and Klosterhalfen, all of which have run sub 8:30 and of the rest at least Gidey and Teferi should be able to go there as well, so the chances are pretty good. Of course, there could be bad pacing but there are enough frontrunner types in the field that it seems unlikely that a bad pacer or a drop in pace when the pacers drop out around 1500-1600m or so.

If it becomes fast and no mishaps occur, the European record might even be in reach for Hassan (8:21.42) but that's damn fast and the race is somewhat crowded.

jakob ingebrigtsen first 18 year old under 3:50??

FINLAND wrote:

jakob ingebrigtsen first 18 year old under 3:50??

No, I don't think this to be possible with his travel/training situation.

Cheruiyot wins the mile in 3:45, Kejelcha 2nd in 3:46.

Hill Run wrote:

I would bet my house that the current top East African female runners have more talent and altitude adapted advantage than Wang Junxia. - And yet nobody can get within 10 seconds of her record??

I'll take that bet. Where is your house?

Koneko wrote:

Genzebe did run faster than one of the most impressive Chinese times.

Yes, Dibaba is indeed quite impressive. However, Wang Junxia who ran 3:51 finished her World Championships marathon at a sub 2:15 pace, passing many of the men. Had there been faster competition for her, I'm sure that her longer event records would have been much faster. Also her fastest 800m was only 1:58.

dunes runner wrote:

Koneko wrote:

Genzebe did run faster than one of the most impressive Chinese times.

Yes, Dibaba is indeed quite impressive. However, Wang Junxia who ran 3:51 finished her World Championships marathon at a sub 2:15 pace, passing many of the men. Had there been faster competition for her, I'm sure that her longer event records would have been much faster. Also her fastest 800m was only 1:58.

Was that the 93 World Cup in Spain marathon?

Does anyone else think cedenio in the 400 can split Norman and Kerley?

dunes runner wrote:

Hill Run wrote:

I would bet my house that the current top East African female runners have more talent and altitude adapted advantage than Wang Junxia. - And yet nobody can get within 10 seconds of her record??

I'll take that bet. Where is your house?

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) listed Wang in its Hall of Fame.[5] Wang was the only Chinese athlete to repeat her 1993 successes at the 1996 Olympics, under Coach Mao, though Qu had managed a bronze medal at the 1992 Olympics. However, there were doping allegations about her 1993 performances. Yuan Weimin, former Director General of the State General Administration of Sports and Chairperson of the Chinese Olympic Committee, had confirmed in 2009 in his book that six athletes by her former coach Ma Junren were dropped from the 2000 Summer Olympics because they were tested positive for doping.[6] Coach Ma was also fired from the Chinese national team in 2000. During the 2012 Summer Olympics, a journalist even lumped Wang and compatriot Qu Yunxia into a group of so-called "chemical sisters" which included Andreas Krieger.[7]

On February 3, 2016, Tencent Sports exclusively published a March 1995 letter reportedly from Wang and nine other athletes under Ma's tutelage. In it, they alleged Coach Ma forced them to dope.[8] Zhao Yu, the investigative author who had received the letter, said Wang and others came forward because Coach Ma had told them to take personal responsibilities, should they get caught. The letter was initially published in 2015 in Zhao's book, but only gained traction in Feb 2016.[6] The story raised suspicion over the legitimacy of Wang's world records. The IAAF confirmed it had reach out to the Chinese Athletics Association for verification and would investigate, but the latter has yet to respond.[9]

INGLE BRITSIN

Nej Nej wrote:

FINLAND wrote:

jakob ingebrigtsen first 18 year old under 3:50??

No, I don't think this to be possible with his travel/training situation.

Caleb Ndiku already did this bro

Not only 8 under 8.30 already but also 21yo Gidey just outside and two 20yo Ethiopians have made massive breakthroughs already this year (Fantu Worku and Hawi Feysa). For me it’s kipkirui over Hassan and Worku.

Nej Nej wrote:

FINLAND wrote:

jakob ingebrigtsen first 18 year old under 3:50??

No, I don't think this to be possible with his travel/training situation.

3:50 equates to 3:33. Absolutely sure he can.

The two mile is not a DL race but pits 7 or 8 of the top distance athletes against each other and the clock. You would think like Rome 5000, it will be barega, Gebrhiwet, balew, hadis, and Ahmed in that order. Chelimo and gator both need to improve on Shanghai and cheptegei could be in the mix.

Aussiestatman wrote:

The two mile is not a DL race but pits 7 or 8 of the top distance athletes against each other and the clock. You would think like Rome 5000, it will be barega, Gebrhiwet, balew, hadis, and Ahmed in that order. Chelimo and gator both need to improve on Shanghai and cheptegei could be in the mix.

Should read yator