Mary Keitany Sets the Women's Clean WR!!! 2:16:59

QuestionMarksGo wrote:

It is the nature of our sport to question all amazing performances. Do not call people naysayers to question. Clean athletes should welcome the questions.

Yeah, that's a good way to draw in new fans...

WTFBBQ wrote:

Show us your 100% sources because no information of that kind has been released.

You alone hold the key to proving Paula was a doper.

It's been posted on this forum many times. Go look it up.

Last time I checked, Mary wasn't paced to her time by a couple of burly Kenyan dudes. A real WR set today.

NativeSon wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

A genocidal people responsible for many of Africa's worst problems.

Very true!

Hey guys! Why don't you two come over for dinner so that we can discuss these issues?

St Marker wrote:

Paula goes home devastated!!!!

For once 'going home devastated' may be true. I only watched the main BBC stream with Radcliffe commentating for a few minutes, but I noticed that keeping the record seemed to be very important to her.

You prove it. There is no proof. No evidence. No credible testimony. You regurgitate something that someone else said without proof and then you say "It's been posted on this forum many times" and you are a trifling embarrassment b/c of it. If you actually want someone to believe you - back up what you say. Provide a source. Any legitimate source. ANYTHING.

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=paula%20radcliffe%20blood%20doping&oq=paula%20radcliffe%20blood%20doping&aqs=chrome..69i57.6278j0j7

That is the worst logic I have ever heard and I have raced in more top notch races than you could probably ever dream of. Question amazing performances? Are you kidding? You've butchered and slandered her to the nth degree!!!!!---with nothing but moronic mad up crap! You are beyond a naysayer, you're demented to the nth degree.

QuestionMarksGo wrote:

It is the nature of our sport to question all amazing performances. Do not call people naysayers to question. Clean athletes should welcome the questions.

With that pacing more suspect that Paula's outright WR.

The idea of this being a women's only world record is pretty stupid given that Keitany went out over a minute faster through half way than Paula did when she ran 2:15 (sub 67 vs just outside 68). The male pacemakers in my opinion were irrelevant now that we've seen what Keitany's just done.

You're the world's biggest moron. It doesn't matter if Paula had male pacers. She's still a female and went out and did it. And hasn't failed a drug test since. What's the difference between Paula's record and all the other world and national records that have been set with pacers?

Fiancee Died Doped wrote:

EPO, EPO, EPO, EPO.......EPO

Try to keep up: EPO doesn't help elite Kenyans.

EE/NR wrote:

Show me 100% proof that she took anything that aided her performance

1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;

2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;

3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!

casual obsever wrote:

EE/NR wrote:

Show me 100% proof that she took anything that aided her performance

1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;

2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;

3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!

Checkmate.

casual obsever wrote:

EE/NR wrote:

Show me 100% proof that she took anything that aided her performance

1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;

2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;

3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!

Ding ding !!

EPO, EPO, EPO, EPO.......EPO

No it is rocket fuel, in last 2-3 years this is improvement for her 6-11 min. Strong mind for sure, coupled with hard training, and little bit of Nox.

casual obsever wrote:

EE/NR wrote:

Show me 100% proof that she took anything that aided her performance

1) 30% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, as measured 90 minutes after a 67 minute race in the low/mid 70s;

2) 20% increase in Hb concentration within 2 days, after a 10,000;

3) Altitude Hb values of 12 and 13 g/dL, and then 16.2!

Did they record a DEHP spike?

It is such a double standard to hire a pacer to drag along the field in a woman's race but then not accept Paula's record as legit on the off chance that she was paced. If you are going to do it right keep two sets of WR's (holds true for track races too)--one for paced or the rabbited and the other for unpaced.

There has always been a double standered here, it all depends on if a runner is liked. Notice the last two womens 1/2 marathon records had a male pacer lead the runner all the way to the line, it also happen at some marathons but nothing is said. Paula's pacers kept cutting off Paula at the end.

Fmoron wrote:

You're the world's biggest moron. It doesn't matter if Paula had male pacers and cheated or took EPO and other drugs or whatever. She's still a female and even if she's a man she went out and did it. And hasn't failed a drug test since that's been acknowledged and resulted in a ban. What's the difference between Paula's record where she cheated and all the other world and national records that have been set according to the standards?