RUPP GOES FOR IT - Comes up short over last 500 - 13:05.

I preferred the Rupp Goes Home Devastated thread title but it was deleted. It's crap like that on letrun that is really irritating.

True was 8th 13:13.33.

Goes home devastated.

Tactician/magician wrote:

Sciatica Road wrote:

Rupp ran it correctly, he just does not have the AR fitness right now. That was the rust buster. He has to get back to that fitness he had when he got th 10000m AR.

I'm proud of him for trying. The way he ran it is his best strategy. He still got fourth, but at least he went for it. When he gets back to peak shape, he will take scalps and the AR with that strategy.

did he actually race, but fell short? Or did he hang back and just fade? The former being more respectable

He went for it, wire-to-wire, but started tightening up around the 4000m mark, not having complete vascolation...needs to be relaxed more, both physically and mentally to have the cajones to pull this front-running off, while at peak fitness, and he may not be at the latter.

But I would rather see him try this and fail rather than getting tooled in a 5000m tactical. Maybe his fitness will be peaking for the next one.

So why are american distance guys seemingly at their best in Feb through May? Seems like the indoor circuit and Stanford is where guys like Rupp, True, Mead, etc. have peaked? Personally I was always in crap shape in Jan-Feb, only to peak in May. Should these guys be in crap shape in May to peak in Aug/Sep?

Sciatica Road wrote:

Tactician/magician wrote:

did he actually race, but fell short? Or did he hang back and just fade? The former being more respectable

He went for it, wire-to-wire, but started tightening up around the 4000m mark, not having complete vascolation...needs to be relaxed more, both physically and mentally to have the cajones to pull this front-running off, while at peak fitness, and he may not be at the latter.

But I would rather see him try this and fail rather than getting tooled in a 5000m tactical. Maybe his fitness will be peaking for the next one.

Same here. Thanks.

edit: vasodilatation

Alberto is trying a two-peak/year strategy. Hope Rupp is now on the upswing for the 2nd peak (or now 3rd peak?!?).

I didn't see Mead up that high, in fact I thought he was well behind True late in the race. He must have smelled blood over the last 400 and blown by people. What's up with Gebriwhit??? Times may not seem super impressive, but good to have 3 americans in the top 8 in a quality diamond league 5000, even while leaving out names like Jager, Lagat, Bumbi....

Thread preference wrote:

I preferred the Rupp Goes Home Devastated thread title but it was deleted. It's crap like that on letrun that is really irritating.

Me too. I think "going home devastated" provides a detailed mental picture.

idek wrote:

Thread preference wrote:

I preferred the Rupp Goes Home Devastated thread title but it was deleted. It's crap like that on letrun that is really irritating.

Me too. I think "going home devastated" provides a detailed mental picture.

But it probably is not accurate. He is a pro, and realizes that he HAS recently been at the fitness level to win a race like today, and needs to do what he was doing to get back there. The mental aspect is going play into it huge when running all-out fast (being at home versus on another continent, etc.) . But he can focus, and get prepared to take another crack at it next time. This was the rust buster to wake-up and get used again to running FAST!

Rupp sure is good at running 13:0X...and that's not a back-handed, passive aggressive slam. I'm proud of him.

yoyomama wrote:

Having 6 week old twins can't be good for your kick.

He has twins! Lucky son of a gun. I can't see how he is not laying on his living room floor in the fetal position dead from taking care of the twins. Just wait till they are one and up and running about. Galen will be an exhausted man. Just kidding, hope he has nothing but joy every minute!

What's up with Levins?

Way back.

Maybe just not a good dar for saladbar

DJ Roomba wrote:

What's up with Levins?

Way back.

Maybe just not a good dar for saladbar

Peaked for Commonwealth?

Rupp was flat at the end but still finished in a very respectable place. Rowbury had a very solid race as well.

He didn't have the shape or the rest from the kids here but he hadn't raced in a long time. However, he did apparently go for it, unless he was purposely slowing down to save for a kick he ended up not having. So, all credit to him for taking a risk, and maybe at Zurich he will be over the jet lag and fresh for a good one. And because he took that risk, we got a 12:54 out of the field. Maybe a high 12:40s out of someone at Zurich?

He looked rather tentative in the lead. That's something you can sense as a fellow racer in the thick of the battle. Not sure he could have gapped them if he wanted to but he was done once the doubt crept in.

This thread is hilarious. I've never seen so many excuse piled into one thread. Let's review

a) twins, man, TWINS. Guy must be exhausted!!

(lol. As if he is losing ANY sleep dealing with the kids. Guarantee his wife or family is handling virtually all of that)

b) Jet Lag! (yes, Rupp has never raced overseas before)

c) He's doing a double peak season (um, what race is that second peak for?)

d) he went it or man, HE WENT FOR IT PRE STYLE and of course he died (so he got paced for awhile, did some leading, and....no one can handle that?? How many WR's have been set where the guy leads much of the 2nd half of the race??!)

e) he's rusty. (this is a guy known for not racing for awhile and coming back very sharp)

C'mon, he got his a$$ kicked, period. Where was that low 12:40's that so many said he was capable of?

Rupp has had a stellar career. He doesn't need to apologize for a bad race. But stop with the excuses. He got his a$$ handed to him. it happens. But he's NOT capable of a low/mid 12:40's like are routinely told here. Not gonna happen.

Our race recap is up here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/08/galen-rupp-goes-fades-1305-muktar-edris-arrives-world-leading-1254-83/

This is EXACTLY how I said to do it! They are going out at 2:34/1km, and Rupp is on those pacers LIKE WHITE ON RICE!

LRC update: Our race racap

of Galen Rupp's 5000 is here.