Adam Kszczot crushes Nijel Amos in 800 - Is this white guy the world's best ?

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  • ate at a polish restaurant
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 2:41pm CDT
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    Amos just crushed Rudisa and Aman at CGs and African champs. Well guess who crushed Amos today?

    Addam Kszczot. Well done.

    RANK ATHLETE NATION RESULT DIAMOND POINTS DIAMOND RANKING
    1 KSZCZOT Adam POL 01:45.25 4 3
    2 SOULEIMAN Ayanleh DJI 1:45.49 2 7
    3 LEWANDOWSKI Marcin POL 01:45.76 1 11
    4 BOSSE Pierre-Ambroise FRA 01:45.95
    5 AMOS Nijel BOT 01:46.04 6 2
    6 BUBE Andreas DEN 01:46.59
    7 ALMGREN Andreas SWE 01:47.54
    8 KITUM Timothy KEN 01:47.93
    LÓPEZ Yeimer CUB DNF
    SOM Bram NED DNF

    Intermediate times:
    400m SOM, Bram (NED) 52.49

    600m KSZCZOT, Adam (POL) 01:19.78
  • TAA
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    5 years ago 08/21/2014 2:47pm CDT
    re: ate at a polish restaurant
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    No hes not the best. Though white guys have been doing very well this year. Even without Symmonds!
  • El Keniano
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 2:50pm CDT
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    Breathe in breathe out wrote:

    No one race does not make you the world's best. Amos is still the world's best. Kszczot is very good though.

    David Rudisha is the world's best, just ahead of Wilson Kipketer.
  • adcuk2022
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 2:57pm CDT
    re: El Keniano
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    and they are both absolute dopers .
    maybe thats why .


    kipketer and epo .. igf-1 lr3 and gw501516 for rudisha
  • whataminute..
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:03pm CDT
    re: El Keniano
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    El Keniano wrote:

    Breathe in breathe out wrote:

    No one race does not make you the world's best. Amos is still the world's best. Kszczot is very good though.

    David Rudisha is the world's best, just ahead of Wilson Kipketer.




    Kipketer is still running?
  • 800 Coach
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:07pm CDT
    re: TAA
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    That is true. Amos was off today. He's still #1 in the world this year. Everybody has off days.
  • Yo 1/20 man
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:25pm CDT
    re: ate at a polish restaurant
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    3 thoughts: Amos took the lead cuz it was a slow race, then went back on it and was in 4th going into the home straight. Wasting energy taking the lead and then intentionally letting up too late to conserve energy and getting yourself into a deficit from the lead is bad tactics. Then, Amos lets up and allows bosse to pass him. Amos ran worse than I could have imagined today. #2 thought: kitum was nonexistent #3 thought: there was no rudisha or aman and its only one race, so Kcsycot is not neccessarily the best in the world now
  • physiology 101
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:31pm CDT
    re: whataminute..
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    whataminute.. wrote:

    El Keniano wrote:

    Breathe in breathe out wrote:

    No one race does not make you the world's best. Amos is still the world's best. Kszczot is very good though.

    David Rudisha is the world's best, just ahead of Wilson Kipketer.




    Kipketer is still running?


    He ran the NYC marathon last year
  • Deanouk
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    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:31pm CDT
    re: 800 Coach
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    800 Coach wrote:

    That is true. Amos was off today. He's still #1 in the world this year. Everybody has off days.

    I think that Kszczot is probably the best in the world at this precise moment, and certainly over the last week, as he has won the European title and beaten everyone apart from Rudisha and Aman. But no, that doesn't mean he is the year's best.

    I have to say I was shocked at how badly Bosse ran in the Europeans! (does anyone know if he is carrying an injury?) and was really disappointed with Amos today. The race was not that fast and seemed perfectly set up for his final kick with 100 to go, but there was nothing there.

    Kszczot's last 200m was 25.5 tonight, which is good but not startling in a 1:45 race.

    Here's hoping Rudisha is back to nearer his best form when he takes on Kszczot and others in Birmingham's 600m.
  • unpredictor
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:43pm CDT
    re: Deanouk
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    Deanouk wrote:


    I have to say I was shocked at how badly Bosse ran in the Europeans! (does anyone know if he is carrying an injury?)



    Didn't he have tachycardia before the final? I read somewhere that before the race he mentioned that "this isn't going to go well"?
  • Deanouk
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    5 years ago 08/21/2014 3:53pm CDT
    re: unpredictor
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    unpredictor wrote:

    Deanouk wrote:


    I have to say I was shocked at how badly Bosse ran in the Europeans! (does anyone know if he is carrying an injury?)



    Didn't he have tachycardia before the final? I read somewhere that before the race he mentioned that "this isn't going to go well"?



    Really!?

    What causes that? Just nerves or is it a condition?
  • Sloop John B
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    5 years ago 08/21/2014 4:00pm CDT
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    How come most everybody seems to be writing off David Rudisha? Injured for a while and now coming back to form. He was and still is the best. Watch next year when he gets back to form and then in 2016 when he goes back to being unbeatable. All these other 800m guys will be forgotten when the king regains his form. This is just like in boxing, when there is no dominate guy, the "best" in the world is literally just a term tossed around by who is winning the most recent fight (i.e. who can hold onto a belt for a fight or two). Well recall a fully fit Rudisha WAS that guy who was very consistently winning and is the current world record holder. None of these new guys have the consistency he did when he was at the top. My whole point is Rusdisha WILL get back to form and perhaps even better form and then these discussions about who is best and who is not will end. The cream rises to the top. Done and done.
  • The Champ
    5 years ago 08/21/2014 4:12pm CDT
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    Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

    You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!
  • hold the phone
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    5 years ago 08/22/2014 8:31am CDT
    re: The Champ
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    The Champ wrote:

    Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

    You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!

    By that logic, I guess Souleiman is the second best in the world, Lewandoski is third best, and Bosse is fourth best, since they all beat Amos yesterday. Is that really what you think? Is that how you'd place your wagers if there was a WC scheduled for next week?
  • ijenns318
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    5 years ago 08/22/2014 11:44am CDT
    re: hold the phone
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    Anybody know where there's a race video?
  • adcuk2022
    5 years ago 08/22/2014 1:03pm CDT
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    that consistentcy that rudisha used to have
    all down to doping . simples .

    will not return until finds away to up endurance
    for end of race again .
    speed still there ,but that is what 800m all about
    at moment with , igf-1 lr3 doing the rounds .
  • adcuk2022
    5 years ago 08/22/2014 1:05pm CDT
    re: adcuk2022
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    definitely think kszcot up there with best kick
    off a slower paced race .
    europeans just pulled away .
  • The Champ
    5 years ago 08/22/2014 1:05pm CDT
    re: hold the phone
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    hold the phone wrote:

    The Champ wrote:

    Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

    You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!

    By that logic, I guess Souleiman is the second best in the world, Lewandoski is third best, and Bosse is fourth best, since they all beat Amos yesterday. Is that really what you think? Is that how you'd place your wagers if there was a WC scheduled for next week?



    I think Amos is excellent and obviously one of the best in the world. He has, however, been beaten several times by other great athletes. I don't pretend his defeats are meaningless.

    Many people seem to decide who is 'great' and for them all defeats are explained away (cold weather?!).
  • george oscar bluth
    5 years ago 08/22/2014 1:11pm CDT
    re: The Champ
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    The Champ wrote:

    hold the phone wrote:

    The Champ wrote:

    Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

    You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!

    By that logic, I guess Souleiman is the second best in the world, Lewandoski is third best, and Bosse is fourth best, since they all beat Amos yesterday. Is that really what you think? Is that how you'd place your wagers if there was a WC scheduled for next week?



    I think Amos is excellent and obviously one of the best in the world. He has, however, been beaten several times by other great athletes. I don't pretend his defeats are meaningless.

    Many people seem to decide who is 'great' and for them all defeats are explained away (cold weather?!).


    So pony up and say who you think is #1 in the world right now.
  • Not a Coach
    5 years ago 08/22/2014 1:16pm CDT
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    I am sick to death of these motherf____g threads about runners' motherf____g race.