Adam Kszczot crushes Nijel Amos in 800 - Is this white guy the world's best ?

No hes not the best. Though white guys have been doing very well this year. Even without Symmonds!

Breathe in breathe out wrote:

No one race does not make you the world's best. Amos is still the world's best. Kszczot is very good though.

David Rudisha is the world's best, just ahead of Wilson Kipketer.

and they are both absolute dopers .

maybe thats why .

kipketer and epo .. igf-1 lr3 and gw501516 for rudisha

El Keniano wrote:

Breathe in breathe out wrote:

No one race does not make you the world's best. Amos is still the world's best. Kszczot is very good though.

David Rudisha is the world's best, just ahead of Wilson Kipketer.

Kipketer is still running?

That is true. Amos was off today. He's still #1 in the world this year. Everybody has off days.

3 thoughts: Amos took the lead cuz it was a slow race, then went back on it and was in 4th going into the home straight. Wasting energy taking the lead and then intentionally letting up too late to conserve energy and getting yourself into a deficit from the lead is bad tactics. Then, Amos lets up and allows bosse to pass him. Amos ran worse than I could have imagined today. #2 thought: kitum was nonexistent #3 thought: there was no rudisha or aman and its only one race, so Kcsycot is not neccessarily the best in the world now

whataminute.. wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

David Rudisha is the world's best, just ahead of Wilson Kipketer.

Kipketer is still running?

He ran the NYC marathon last year

800 Coach wrote:

That is true. Amos was off today. He's still #1 in the world this year. Everybody has off days.

I think that Kszczot is probably the best in the world at this precise moment, and certainly over the last week, as he has won the European title and beaten everyone apart from Rudisha and Aman. But no, that doesn't mean he is the year's best.

I have to say I was shocked at how badly Bosse ran in the Europeans! (does anyone know if he is carrying an injury?) and was really disappointed with Amos today. The race was not that fast and seemed perfectly set up for his final kick with 100 to go, but there was nothing there.

Kszczot's last 200m was 25.5 tonight, which is good but not startling in a 1:45 race.

Here's hoping Rudisha is back to nearer his best form when he takes on Kszczot and others in Birmingham's 600m.

Deanouk wrote:

I have to say I was shocked at how badly Bosse ran in the Europeans! (does anyone know if he is carrying an injury?)

Didn't he have tachycardia before the final? I read somewhere that before the race he mentioned that "this isn't going to go well"?

unpredictor wrote:

Deanouk wrote:

I have to say I was shocked at how badly Bosse ran in the Europeans! (does anyone know if he is carrying an injury?)

Didn't he have tachycardia before the final? I read somewhere that before the race he mentioned that "this isn't going to go well"?

Really!?

What causes that? Just nerves or is it a condition?

How come most everybody seems to be writing off David Rudisha? Injured for a while and now coming back to form. He was and still is the best. Watch next year when he gets back to form and then in 2016 when he goes back to being unbeatable. All these other 800m guys will be forgotten when the king regains his form. This is just like in boxing, when there is no dominate guy, the "best" in the world is literally just a term tossed around by who is winning the most recent fight (i.e. who can hold onto a belt for a fight or two). Well recall a fully fit Rudisha WAS that guy who was very consistently winning and is the current world record holder. None of these new guys have the consistency he did when he was at the top. My whole point is Rusdisha WILL get back to form and perhaps even better form and then these discussions about who is best and who is not will end. The cream rises to the top. Done and done.

Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!

The Champ wrote:

Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!

By that logic, I guess Souleiman is the second best in the world, Lewandoski is third best, and Bosse is fourth best, since they all beat Amos yesterday. Is that really what you think? Is that how you'd place your wagers if there was a WC scheduled for next week?

Anybody know where there's a race video?

that consistentcy that rudisha used to have

all down to doping . simples .

will not return until finds away to up endurance

for end of race again .

speed still there ,but that is what 800m all about

at moment with , igf-1 lr3 doing the rounds .

definitely think kszcot up there with best kick

off a slower paced race .

europeans just pulled away .

hold the phone wrote:

The Champ wrote:

Funny how when Amos wins he is #1, when he loses it was 'not his day'.

You just can't beat this guy! Even when you beat him!

By that logic, I guess Souleiman is the second best in the world, Lewandoski is third best, and Bosse is fourth best, since they all beat Amos yesterday. Is that really what you think? Is that how you'd place your wagers if there was a WC scheduled for next week?

I think Amos is excellent and obviously one of the best in the world. He has, however, been beaten several times by other great athletes. I don't pretend his defeats are meaningless.

Many people seem to decide who is 'great' and for them all defeats are explained away (cold weather?!).

The Champ wrote:

hold the phone wrote:

By that logic, I guess Souleiman is the second best in the world, Lewandoski is third best, and Bosse is fourth best, since they all beat Amos yesterday. Is that really what you think? Is that how you'd place your wagers if there was a WC scheduled for next week?

I think Amos is excellent and obviously one of the best in the world. He has, however, been beaten several times by other great athletes. I don't pretend his defeats are meaningless.

Many people seem to decide who is 'great' and for them all defeats are explained away (cold weather?!).

So pony up and say who you think is #1 in the world right now.

I am sick to death of these motherf____g threads about runners' motherf____g race.