What an amazing race 12:41.73 DEAD HEAT?! between Kejelcha and Kiplimo

No. That’s not the way it works. In today’s race Jakob arrives at the last lap with more lactate than those guys and no he doesn’t win. What exactly has he done in longer distances for you to make such a stupid claim? Kiplimo has a 57:32 half PR. Physiology is not a strong point on this site obviously.

Don't forget Woody Kincaid. Hit 12:51.61 indoors behind three Sub-12:40 guys on the Indoor list:

1. Kenenisa Bekele (12:49.60) 2.20.2004

2. Haile Gebrselassie (12:50.38) 2.14.1999

3. Daniel Komen (12:51.48) 2.19.1998

4. Woody Kincaid (12:51.61) 1.27.2023

Also, Luis Grijalva was within a second of both Katir and Kejelcha! I'm not saying he's in WR shape, but he can definitely obliterate Grant Fisher's North American record of 12:46.96. Grant was in that race and was 4 seconds back/placed 11th.

I ain't saying that Woody is in World Record contention but, don't rule him out either.

1) Yes I watched the world championship 5k live, and I had called him for the win prior to the race

2) 12:41 vs. 13:09…not really a comparison, and nobody in the world was going to have a drastic gear change in the last lap of today’s 5k

3) I’m not with “bruns” either - the 5k world champion who has won the only sub-12:50 race he’s been in and just ran 7:54y can buffer lactate extremely, extremely well

4) Regardless of who would have won, nobody would have done it “easily.” 12:41 with the last 2 kilometers in 2:30, 2:24 is possibly the most impressive 5k ever run, you understand that right?

My boy.

Jakob is a 3:27 1500m / 7:21 (Two Mile Pace) / 7:54 Two Mile / 12:48 5K guy. He's the Olympic 1500m Gold Medalist / World 5k Gold Medalist. I HIGHLY doubt he couldn't have won especially given how monstrous his fitness is currently. He's like Chris Solinsky in 2010 or Grant Fisher in 2022. Except, with Medals and World Records. No one's keeping up with him this year.

wtf?

Love how there isn’t a single mention of Cheptegei. People have worked out he was the master of the covid era time trial and he’ll never approach that pace again.

3) Lactate isn't buffered, it's a buffer.

I'm sure wejo will agree this is big win for TALL people.

All else equal, two runners leaning, the TALL one gets there first.

Floored by these splits. Incredible incredible stuff. I remember how shocking Paris 2012 was with all the mid-high 12:40s, and then of course Barega’s 12:43 in Brussels 2018. This though was in a different league. Outside of pure time trials, I can’t think of many similarly impressive 5ks ever run

Times and splits don't mean anything. Generalities overwhelm specifics. All these threads here with headers listing name after name. They blend into dependable hilarity.

When Jakob's name is on the list he's the big dog and the winner.

OK there comes a point where you have to understand what you’re saying, and since you obviously don’t grasp it, and JWH is trying to get it through your thick head, I will offer to dumb it down for you:

The Oslo 5000m was won in 12:41.73, a mere 6.37 seconds off the world record, and maybe not run ideally in terms of allocating resources efficiently to achieve the fastest time, and you are trying to tell us that Jakob could have won it EASILY?
Only 4 men in history have run faster than what you saw today, and they are Joshua Cheptegei, and 3 of the greatest distance runners who have ever lived: Kenenisa Bekele, Haile Gebrselassie and Daniel Komen, and you want to tell us that Jakob could have won it easily?

Jakob would have been hanging on for dear life, and yes, Jakob might have won it, but he would have been digging about as deep as he could go. Jacob Kiplimo is a generational talent, the likes of which Jakob cannot defeat on talent, and at 5000m they are too close to call. Remember that although Kejelcha took over late, it was Kiplimo who really made it happen, and it is Kiplimo who is an even match for Jakob at 5000m, and a better runner than Jakob at distances above 5000m. Show some respect, and never utter such nonsense again.

WTF?

Good. I'll never accept or consider Cheptegei as a World Record threat. If it wasn't for Nike and Valencia getting World Athletics to waiver wavelights or supershoes to be made record-eligible as well as giving him the most drugged conditions to make him run faster. He'd never have been as fast as he did. He hasn't gone as fast or dominant since.

I respected him more during his 2019 Doha 10,000m final against Kejelcha than any result from 2020 onward. He's a sellout and a fraud for $$$.

It’s amazing how great a race is when you race and not jog round and see who is the fastest 200m runner

Diamonds races are quite exciting of late

Who's the reigning 10 000 champion?

Bro Jakob would've been 10-15m ahead and broken 12:40 with a final 2K of 4:52.

Do you not understand that Jakob is in beast mode right now?

He's aiming and in contention for the 2000m world record of 4:44.79

He JUST ran 3:27 and completely destroyed everyone in that race.

You trippin'

Bad analogy. But grow a pair.

Pretty easy to win when you prefer to race as a 400m runner and not a 10K runner, innit?

Push the pace hard and Cheptegei doesn't podium. That's why he lost to Jakob in the 5K

In any case, quite exciting to see that there is half a dozen guys in shape (or close to) to break the 5k WR. Strangely enough, it does not mean that it will fall soon because the calendar might not be conducive to it, but who knows.