1990 to 1992, US Senator Al Gore decided not to run. He assumed George H.W. Bush was unbeatable. That was Al Gore's election to win. Late 2013, H.R.C. was polling over 70% approval. I have a good feel for group psychology. I told everyone I knew: Wait for her to start campaigning again, H.R.C. is not a likeable person. Elizabeth Warren would have been a great contrast to H.R.C. in 2016. I think Warren's moment has passed.
She Will Not wrote:
Warren will not be the presidential nominee. Not a chance. Not really even worth thinking about.,
Aw, c'mon, let us have some fun first.
Next up to declare, Burnie Sandals the avowed socialist
Then the early onset Alzheimer's candidate, Joe Biden.
Cheech wrote:
She Will Not wrote:
Warren will not be the presidential nominee. Not a chance. Not really even worth thinking about.,
Aw, c'mon, let us have some fun first.
Next up to declare, Burnie Sandals the avowed socialist
Then the early onset Alzheimer's candidate, Joe Biden.
Everyone likes at least some socialism. I know people who were quoting all the Libertarian lines while in their 30's, now in their 60's have no problem with the safety net. Republican farmers with their hands out for subsidies. Republican weapon contractors with their hands out for government contracts which pay them way more than market value. Publicly funded healthcare for all is actually more efficient than our current model. Nearly free public universities as they are in Europe is actually an efficient public good.
Timing is everything ... wrote:
1990 to 1992, US Senator Al Gore decided not to run. He assumed George H.W. Bush was unbeatable. That was Al Gore's election to win. Late 2013, H.R.C. was polling over 70% approval. I have a good feel for group psychology. I told everyone I knew: Wait for her to start campaigning again, H.R.C. is not a likeable person. Elizabeth Warren would have been a great contrast to H.R.C. in 2016. I think Warren's moment has passed.
Can you imagine Warren in a meeting with Putin, or Kim Il Jong, or the Red Chinee leaders? They'd laugh. This Once worlld leading country has come to this?
She'd offer herbal tea and a hug.
meaty urologist wrote:
TJ, you $tole that joke.
Stealing is such a harsh word. I think more of it as borrowing intellectual property for the sake of a temporary jest.
Me thinks you need to read and research. wrote:
NewtotheSouthSide wrote:
Umm, despite what old white dudes think/say, AOC IS a rising star in the party. She is a leader. i.e. someone who has followers. She has bold progressive ideas and wants to tackle inequity in the US. If you don't like her I don't know what to tell you. You're just a white dude who feels insecure about a powerful woman who a lot of people like. The answer isn't just she or all of us are clueless. AOC wants to tackle a whole wide range of issues corporations are spending millions on to never resolve. At least she works for the people who elected her. People thought Paul Ryan was brilliant when he was young and he left us with a bunch of tax breaks for rich people. Don't come in here and tell me you don't like AOC because she threatens your manhood. If the only critique is how are we going to pay for things, maybe challenge your ideas of socialism being the worst thing ever. Right now we have no balance with capitalism. It goes unchecked. Middle class share of income is down. How are we going to pay for things? How do we pay for never ending wars? Maybe we have a priorities question. Instead of bashing AOC, what have you thought of to feed people? To house people? To increase incomes for people? A lot of Americans are hurting. At least AOC is coming in with some policy ideas. Tell me what you do not like about her ideas instead of just saying you don't like her and calling her nasty names. That comes across as intelligent on your end.
Odd how people like you mention the "Middle class" but the poor and disadvantaged as an after thought, if at all, in your case not at all. Now let me speculate why that would be, you consider yourself comfortable middle class maybe?
Ah well, at least posting here like an SJW might ease your middle class conscience and make you feel better and superior in your own mind.
Here's a start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class
Bro, you and others can nitpick all you want. Take the whole post in the context it was written in instead of pulling out a single line. The whole point of my light defense of Warren is that she hits the nail on the head. There is no upward mobility in this country. I'm certainly not financially secure. I'm middle class but I'm one medical bill away from being in serious trouble. The reality is that people who aren't the 1% are hurting more than they have in the past. I'm not hear to only speak for the middle class, we need to move people towards it and make sure that as many people as possible have a better share of income in this country. It's okay, throw SJW around. Throw around that I called white men on this website white men. The reality is that you want to throw around SJW and talk about your hurt feelings instead of talking about policy ideas. You want to bring down Warren & AOC who are politicians that aren't fully bought by corporate interests. Instead of lecturing me, what are you doing to work for the poor and disadvantaged? What are your ideas for bringing them to housing justice? Economic justice? I'm working towards those things each day. I don't need to stroke my ego. I'm trying to help people out who have a rotten deal in this country. Maybe you should consider who the keyboard warrior is in this instance. It's definitely not cool to just let go nasty remarks made against female lawmakers that are not rooted in anything. Again, tell me what you do not like. Figure out why you have such strong feelings about them but can't tell me why.
Umm, like, you white guys that think you are better than women and minorities and tranzies and stuff. You don't understand just how hard it is waking up every day being a woman of color(yes, she is part Native Indian (BROWN! ). She wants to feed everyone, love everyone, stop gobal warming, rescue kittens, and make world peace ya know. Give her the chance she DESERVES! And Trump lies!(sigh, sad).
One more time Southie, it has Nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.
Start with fact #1. Which player(major) is NOT in bed with some corporate entity? This goes for both parties.
FFFeffinPlease wrote:
One more time Southie, it has Nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.
Start with fact #1. Which player(major) is NOT in bed with some corporate entity? This goes for both parties.
This almost sounds like you think the politicians put money over doing what is right out of an unconditional and often times altruistic love of the USA.
FFFeffinPlease wrote:
One more time Southie, it has Nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.
Start with fact #1. Which player(major) is NOT in bed with some corporate entity? This goes for both parties.
I wish her well but why was Warren afraid of H.R.C in 2016? H.R.C. has been unlikeable for decades. If Warren was afraid of H.R.C., how can Warren defeat Trump?
Trump has always been a dirty businessman so he didn't feel comfortable asking: H.R.C. was guilty of insider trading. H.R.C. never explained how she knew so much about pork belly trading. H.R.C. never explained how she turned $10,000 to $120,000 in 18 months trading pork bellies. H.R.C. never explained why she was able to ignore Margin Calls.
Most others running for DNC nomination are corporate limousine liberals. Why do some think the Irish-American Texan with a Spanish nickname is a winner? Do left leaning people in US know how conservative is Beto?
NewtotheSouthSide wrote:
Me thinks you need to read and research. wrote:
Odd how people like you mention the "Middle class" but the poor and disadvantaged as an after thought, if at all, in your case not at all. Now let me speculate why that would be, you consider yourself comfortable middle class maybe?
Ah well, at least posting here like an SJW might ease your middle class conscience and make you feel better and superior in your own mind.
Here's a start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_classBro, you and others can nitpick all you want. Take the whole post in the context it was written in instead of pulling out a single line. The whole point of my light defense of Warren is that she hits the nail on the head. There is no upward mobility in this country. I'm certainly not financially secure. I'm middle class but I'm one medical bill away from being in serious trouble. The reality is that people who aren't the 1% are hurting more than they have in the past. I'm not hear to only speak for the middle class, we need to move people towards it and make sure that as many people as possible have a better share of income in this country. It's okay, throw SJW around. Throw around that I called white men on this website white men. The reality is that you want to throw around SJW and talk about your hurt feelings instead of talking about policy ideas. You want to bring down Warren & AOC who are politicians that aren't fully bought by corporate interests. Instead of lecturing me, what are you doing to work for the poor and disadvantaged? What are your ideas for bringing them to housing justice? Economic justice? I'm working towards those things each day. I don't need to stroke my ego. I'm trying to help people out who have a rotten deal in this country. Maybe you should consider who the keyboard warrior is in this instance. It's definitely not cool to just let go nasty remarks made against female lawmakers that are not rooted in anything. Again, tell me what you do not like. Figure out why you have such strong feelings about them but can't tell me why.
Pal, go and buy the tee shirt, sit down with you SJW middle class friends, sip a few lattes and solve the problems of the world, then feeling all warm, fuzzy and contented you'll then be able to come on here and tell us all about it.
"Start your own revolution and cut out the middleman
In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room
So join the struggle while you may
The revolution is just a tee shirt away
Waiting for the great leap forwards"
Billy Bragg
We need a hot looking female to run for Prez. She would seriously get votes.
Easing that middle class conscience is important. wrote:
"Start your own revolution and cut out the middleman
In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room
So join the struggle while you may
The revolution is just a tee shirt away
Waiting for the great leap forwards"
Billy Bragg
Wrong, "the revolution is just a tee shirt and latte away"
Tristate wrote:
We need a hot looking female to run for Prez. She would seriously get votes.
We had her: Sarah Palin
But the liberals trashed her, a woman!
Tristate wrote:
We need a hot looking female to run for Prez. She would seriously get votes.
Yes, but that one must be age 35 or older hurts the chances for this, at age 35 Women are past their prime age wise and it gets progressively worse, Though Mary Ann Dawn Wells looks great for her age and she has to in her 70's
douglas burke wrote:
Tristate wrote:
We need a hot looking female to run for Prez. She would seriously get votes.
Yes, but that one must be age 35 or older hurts the chances for this, at age 35 Women are past their prime age wise and it gets progressively worse, Though Mary Ann Dawn Wells looks great for her age and she has to in her 70's
Dawn Wells is 80
I wish her well, but ... wrote:
FFFeffinPlease wrote:
One more time Southie, it has Nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.
Start with fact #1. Which player(major) is NOT in bed with some corporate entity? This goes for both parties.
I wish her well but why was Warren afraid of H.R.C in 2016? H.R.C. has been unlikeable for decades. If Warren was afraid of H.R.C., how can Warren defeat Trump?
Trump has always been a dirty businessman so he didn't feel comfortable asking: H.R.C. was guilty of insider trading. H.R.C. never explained how she knew so much about pork belly trading. H.R.C. never explained how she turned $10,000 to $120,000 in 18 months trading pork bellies. H.R.C. never explained why she was able to ignore Margin Calls.
Most others running for DNC nomination are corporate limousine liberals. Why do some think the Irish-American Texan with a Spanish nickname is a winner? Do left leaning people in US know how conservative is Beto?
This is a good question but it happens all the time in politics. People running for office often try to find out who else is running and try to get competitors to stay out of the race. Usually the person can leverage their position if the other person ends up winning. I assume Clinton promised Warren something good. Rumor has it that Warren asked Clinton not to appoint anyone with Wall St. ties to her cabinet. It's not that Warren was scared to face her, it's that Clinton had the nomination locked up ever since Obama won the nomination in 2008. The establishment was behind Clinton already and she had enough momentum by the time Warren needed to make a decision. Warren played her cards right to some extent and now is a frontrunner for 2020. The Bernie crowd is pushing out the Beto being a conservative narrative so his popularity will fall off. Bernie is going to have an uphill battle after already running and now that his staff is going public with talk of a toxic work environment for women. Warren will pick up some steam when she emerges as someone with good policy ideas and someone who isn't bought by major corporations after some debates. Biden, unfortunately, will gain some traction. A moderate white guy (no need to get defensive here I mean this in simplistic terms -- he'll get some votes for being a man in a general election that Warren wouldn't get for being a woman) who isn't afraid to go after Trump. Both Biden and Trump will look cartoon-like in a debate with one another throwing jabs at each other. Trump v Warren would look ridiculous. Trump would be up there calling her names and trying to scare people while she would be laying out some policy ideas. I honestly think Trump holds an edge against any challenger in 2020 and that a Democrat is going to have a hard time winning. It wouldn't matter in a popular vote. A Democrat would always win if that were the case. I see the midwest flipping but Democrats coming up short in the south (Florida, NC, Virginia).
NewtotheSouthSide = SJW middle class virtue signaller.
So what exactly have you done? wrote:
spend a lot of time on lr posting long boring diatribes
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