Can someone explain the argument for gun control

mylegshurt wrote:

I have yet to hear a legitimate answer. Inform me

Can you - or someone who shares your position - explain which illegitimate answers/arguments you've heard for gun control? Apart from anything else, this will reduce the risk of repetition.

rockersp wrote:

mylegshurt wrote:

I have yet to hear a legitimate answer. Inform me

when a really angry, homicidal person wants a gun, it would be much harder for him to get it.

not sure why this is so hard.

In reality said angry, homicidal person is going to attempt to kill regardless of if they have a gun and there is no better way to stop them than a hollow point to the chest.

weak wrote:

TheRunningTroll wrote:

Considering a tomahawk cruise missile costs $1.5 million for 1 i don't honestly think your question is worth answering.

so in other words you are flustered and have no answer.

so weak.

So I assume you would support citizen ownership of grenades and RPGs?

No, I don't think people should have grenades and RPGs. Interestingly enough, there are criminals who have both despite them being illegal.

mylegshurt wrote:

rockersp wrote:

when a really angry, homicidal person wants a gun, it would be much harder for him to get it.

not sure why this is so hard.

In reality said angry, homicidal person is going to attempt to kill regardless of if they have a gun and there is no better way to stop them than a hollow point to the chest.

interesting.

so how do you explain why the murder rate is America is so much higher than in all its peer countries?

Logically, your explanation would have to be that Americans are born killers - an American with a screwdriver would kill just as easily as an American with a handgun.

is that your explanation for the far higher murder rate in America than her peers?

Or are you reasonable and understand that the murder rate in America is high because it is far too easy to get a gun?

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-hunters-blamed-immigrants-after-accidentally-shooting-each-other-a7591471.html

TheRunningTroll wrote:

weak wrote:

so in other words you are flustered and have no answer.

so weak.

So I assume you would support citizen ownership of grenades and RPGs?

No, I don't think people should have grenades and RPGs. Interestingly enough, there are criminals who have both despite them being illegal.

so you are for gun control and against the 2nd Amendment.

got it.

now we're just arguing over the details.

TheRunningTroll wrote:

weak wrote:

so in other words you are flustered and have no answer.

so weak.

So I assume you would support citizen ownership of grenades and RPGs?

No, I don't think people should have grenades and RPGs. Interestingly enough, there are criminals who have both despite them being illegal.

Why don't you view RPGs and grenades as protected by the second amendment?

Prediction: you coward out and slink away rather than answering.

Drew Peacock wrote:

mylegshurt wrote:

I have yet to hear a legitimate answer. Inform me

Can you - or someone who shares your position - explain which illegitimate answers/arguments you've heard for gun control? Apart from anything else, this will reduce the risk of repetition.

"No one needs an assault rifle"-coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between semi automatic and full automatic

"When the 2nd amendment was written we didn't have the guns we do today"

"The AR15 is a weapon of war"

Also, the attack on the AR15 despite the fact that it barley used at all in shootings.

also, since no one in the US was killed by a criminal with an RPG or grenade this year, it kind of shoots down your argument that making weapons illegal has no effect.

you might be the worst debater on this entire site, which is quite an accomplishment.

mylegshurt wrote:

Drew Peacock wrote:

Can you - or someone who shares your position - explain which illegitimate answers/arguments you've heard for gun control? Apart from anything else, this will reduce the risk of repetition.

"No one needs an assault rifle"-coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between semi automatic and full automatic

"When the 2nd amendment was written we didn't have the guns we do today"

"The AR15 is a weapon of war"

Also, the attack on the AR15 despite the fact that it barley used at all in shootings.

Do you support citizens owning RPGs?

trolls getting rolled in this thread.

0/10

weakest effort in years

Uncle Bob's nephew wrote:

Trying to ban guns, or take guns away from law abiding citizens in the USA will never work as there are just too many out there on the market. Outlawing just the "assault weapon" gun won't work easily either as an "assault weapon" and a standard deer hunting rifle are essentially the same thing as far as mechanics are concerned.

It would be much easier instead to ban all ammunition sales as well as gun powder and reloading supplies. As the years go by old ammo supplies would be gone or used. Yes, "my uncle Bob" probably has 4,000 rounds of this and 7,000 rounds of that stored in his basement but for all practical reasons he's probably not the one you need to worry about.

Just give the deer the same guns to make it an even fight

rockersp wrote:

mylegshurt wrote:

In reality said angry, homicidal person is going to attempt to kill regardless of if they have a gun and there is no better way to stop them than a hollow point to the chest.

interesting.

so how do you explain why the murder rate is America is so much higher than in all its peer countries?

Logically, your explanation would have to be that Americans are born killers - an American with a screwdriver would kill just as easily as an American with a handgun.

is that your explanation for the far higher murder rate in America than her peers?

Or are you reasonable and understand that the murder rate in America is high because it is far too easy to get a gun?

The United States is #84 in the world for homicide rate per 100,00 people(4.88 per 100,00 ) and the violent crime rate in the U.S has been going down for a decade despits rhe number of guns increasing. Have you purchased a gun to actually be able to give a valid opinion?

No I refer to them as animals because they don't value human life and murder each other in the streets every day.

weak wrote:

TheRunningTroll wrote:

No, I don't think people should have grenades and RPGs. Interestingly enough, there are criminals who have both despite them being illegal.

Why don't you view RPGs and grenades as protected by the second amendment?

Prediction: you coward out and slink away rather than answering.

Guns are simple enough and accessible enough to be used by anyone. RPGs, grenades, and nuclear weapons are not.

mylegshurt wrote:

I refer to them as animals because they don't value human life and murder each other in the streets every day.

actually, you refer to them as 'animals' because you lack the skills to construct a logical argument.

weak wrote:

also, since no one in the US was killed by a criminal with an RPG or grenade this year, it kind of shoots down your argument that making weapons illegal has no effect.

you might be the worst debater on this entire site, which is quite an accomplishment.

At no point in time were grenades or RPGs legal for citizens to own. Guns are legal and if you can't understand that suddenly making them illegal wouldn't accomplish anything you are an idiot. You claim I am the "worst debater" but all you have done is bring up the most extreme examples, then try to draw comparisons between me talking about guns and the most extreme examples you mention.

Suck the TRUTH through a garden hose wrote:

mylegshurt wrote:

I refer to them as animals because they don't value human life and murder each other in the streets every day.

actually, you refer to them as 'animals' because you lack the skills to construct a logical argument.

So you don't understand me calling those that murder animals and come to the conclusion that i can't make an argument based on that? I have cited CDC studies showing guns save more lives than they take and explained why RPGs and grenades aren't protected by the 2nd amendment but i am unable to construct a logical argument? whatever you say ..

TheRunningTroll wrote:

weak wrote:

Why don't you view RPGs and grenades as protected by the second amendment?

Prediction: you coward out and slink away rather than answering.

Guns are simple enough and accessible enough to be used by anyone. RPGs, grenades, and nuclear weapons are not.

huh?!?

your argument makes Zero sense.

So Amendments only protect things that are 'simple enough and easy to access?"

Accessibility has nothing to do with it. Either you support the legal right to own nukes or you are in support of infringing on citizens rights to bear arms.

which is it?