Time to put your money where your mouth is: Parker Stinson says he'll pay you $15k if you coach him to sub-2:11

Ben L Wrong wrote:

Don't start running crazy at 2:05 pace. Project 1:06/1:05.xxx negative split. Cut the hair. Go to Berlin or Rotterdam case's NY course is too difficult, Chicago weather is unpredictable and Boston is not certified.

Or do another mid major marathon like Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Valencia, Fukuoka, Seoul, etc.

THIS!!!!!!^

I knew Parker was reading these boards.

Dear Parker,

Here's the deal. I didn't read anything by anyone saying that they could coach better than Brad Hudson. If they did, I missed it.

The bottom line is, you went out way to fast and it bit you in the butt later on in the race. Don't blame others for what you did. Who do you think you are to do that? You're not God dude! Brad is not to blame, you were coached well, but you got sucked out too fast and now you're shifting the focus away from your own undoings. I don't agree with the cut the hair comment, that has zero to do with how you finished on Sunday. The race is over and now you're saying your group fell apart, so what? If you had felt good it wouldn't have mattered. You hung on gamely and did a decent job of not falling apart, but the results were not what you wanted. Well, next time go out in 1:06 EVEN, versus you're insane early pace that you never recovered from. Your Coach is outstanding and NOT the problem.

Respectfully,

A Letsrun Poster who never claimed he could Coach you to a sub 2:11 (you've already got that Coach)

rewjrk wrote:

Garmin_Guy wrote:

Wondering if he thought about this before Tweeting. Wouldn't he just stand a step before the finish line until the time cleared, and finish 2:11:01? Who would run as hard as they could, knowing they'd owe $15,000....

Someone who stands to make a lot more money than that if he does?

What is this race that gives $11,001 for sub-2:11 but NOTHING for 2:11:01?

(Mostly kidding. Just sort of a bizarre and immature Tweet, IMO).

Regular guy runner wrote:

[quote]Ben L Wrong.

I don't agree with the cut the hair comment, that has zero to do with how you finished on Sunday.

Name one fast runner with hair that long. It totally has everything to do with his performance. Look like a b!tch, Run like a B!tch...cut the hair and 2:11 will come. You’re welcome. Now give me my $15k.

Long Hair Do Care wrote:

Regular guy runner wrote:

[quote]Ben L Wrong.

I don't agree with the cut the hair comment, that has zero to do with how you finished on Sunday.

Name one fast runner with hair that long. It totally has everything to do with his performance. Look like a b!tch, Run like a B!tch...cut the hair and 2:11 will come. You’re welcome. Now give me my $15k.

His hair is tied back. It has zero effect on his pace. Not buying it;)

Long Hair Do Care wrote:

Regular guy runner wrote:

[quote]Ben L Wrong.

I don't agree with the cut the hair comment, that has zero to do with how you finished on Sunday.

Name one fast runner with hair that long. It totally has everything to do with his performance. Look like a b!tch, Run like a B!tch...cut the hair and 2:11 will come. You’re welcome. Now give me my $15k.

Um, ever here of Henrik Jorgensen? 2:09-2:11 several times.

jorgensen, curp, pitayo, janicki, dunno, forgot, dunno, deek

20 x 400 with resting heartbeats to 120. Now PAY ME.

First 5k: 14:57 (2:10 marathon pace)

Last 5k: 17:15 (2:25 marathon pace)

Not sure you should blame your coach for poor pacing.

Jonathan Gault wrote:

So who is brave enough to take Parker up on his offer?

https://twitter.com/parkerstinson/status/1050111678103281665

LMR can coach him, after all, he proved such a dream is not impossible!

Fairly certain I can get him there, but that's a bullshit offer. $15,000 payday for him to jump in some crap marathon and jog 2:25

Maybe the guy isn't capable of running sub 2:11. What has he ever done to indicate anyone can fulfill his dreams?

This is a lose lose situation.

Just STFU and run

Jonathan Gault wrote:

So who is brave enough to take Parker up on his offer?

https://twitter.com/parkerstinson/status/1050111678103281665

Okay, I know he's an Oregon grad, I know how he's raced in his marathons, I still presumed he was at least more intelligent than this. No doubt the dolts who follow him on SM will eat this up, yet it's clear that any better coaches look at him as uncoachable.

i like beer wrote:

First 5k: 14:57 (2:10 marathon pace)

Last 5k: 17:15 (2:25 marathon pace)

Not sure you should blame your coach for poor pacing.

Let me see your calculations?

I'll coach Parker but I can only do $5. I'm not the average LR poster.

Well put! How does Parker Stinson disagree with this?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:

So who is brave enough to take Parker up on his offer?

https://twitter.com/parkerstinson/status/1050111678103281665

Okay, I know he's an Oregon grad, I know how he's raced in his marathons, I still presumed he was at least more intelligent than this. No doubt the dolts who follow him on SM will eat this up, yet it's clear that any better coaches look at him as uncoachable.

He's just hiding, with this deal he's got an incentive to fail. That tells me a lot about him. I hardly know of him but wasn't he the one self promoting pre Chicago?

I like the guy for being honest and communicating and having fun with letsrun. Pretty simple, he would've run 2:11 if he didn't run the first 10k so fast.

In his interview he stated that by going out that fast he hooked up with a group and that wouldn't have happened if he didn't go out at that pace. Here's the deal, that's not how a marathon works. You don't go out even 10 seconds per mile too fast to run with a group. Run a reasonable pace for YOU. Catch those guys who were so obviously running over their heads at mile 10,12 or 18. Get to mile 18-19 feeling good.

I'm not qualified to coach someone with Stinson's ability, but that advice is universal.

malmo wrote:

i like beer wrote:

First 5k: 14:57 (2:10 marathon pace)

Last 5k: 17:15 (2:25 marathon pace)

Not sure you should blame your coach for poor pacing.

Let me see your calculations?

You are right, it is worse than I thought with my initial rough calculation.

First 5k: 14:57 --> 4:49 mile pace --> 2:06:21 marathon pace

Last 5k: 17:15 --> 5:34 mile pace --> 2:25:47 marathon pace

Splits here;

That's not how it works. Funny, the kid wants 'all eyez on' him with his SM habit but doesn't like the criticism that is invited when putting yourself in the public eye and then folding like a lawn chair in a tornado. Just walk the walk, quit trying to spin out of what you've created.