Where does Parker Stinson go from here?

Comrades

He needs a reality check. He keeps shooting for home runs all the time and falls apart because of it. He should’ve gone out in 66 like the rest of the guys and tried to bring it home after that for a 2:11

Ill HS wrote:

I recently listened to a podcast interview with Stinson, and really became a fan. The kid is a real student of the sport. Does he need a coaching change? Perhaps just continue and stay consistent? After listening to the interview, I don't think he'll be happy.

No. He simply got caught up in the fast pace and didn't back off when he heard the early splits that were simply too fast. Lesson learned, hopefully. Try again.

HS coaching. Or he can enter smaller races for the win. It pays the bill.

He always likes to start fast. His first mile at that 20 mile altitude workout he did was like 5:02. Else his body shuts down.

"He's not normal"

He’s a mid tier elite. He should run a bunch of low level road races and make a decent living. He isn’t making a national team anytime soon.

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Parker,

You have exactly the right attitude and work ethic. You need a better marathon coach. Someone that will hold you back a little in training and teach you the nuances of the event. I believe you can run sub 2;10 right now. Brad gets too aggressive and too excited for someone with your personality.

Parker was my teammate in HS.. he is coming back from achellies surgery and really has only had maybe a year of good training (not 100% sure if time period is correct) but with another solid year of training I think he can run sub 2:09 and make the olympic team. he just needs to stay health, get solid training and run smarter in races.

Smarter pacing. Sub-211.

It’s 2018. He knew what I’ve he was running. You don’t need to wait for 5k splits to know where you are at.

Going out at 2:06 pace through five miles does have the ability to ruin your race when 2:11 is pushing the edge of ability. A more conservative approach would have resulted in a much, much better day for him.

In the YouTube videos he was featured in they brag about how he has to run workouts too fast or his head isn’t in it. Brad needs to understand the discipline of paces or else it will be a longer career of big positive split fade from the front effort.

What is best case scenario going out at 2:06 pace for him? I really don’t think there is one. A disciplined approach in training and racing is what’s needed.

You can’t get your pb in the first 10k of a marathon, but certainly can ruin your day. Less ego and going out at 66 allows you to negative split a few seconds a mile if it’s there. If not, you’re in a much better position to run ~2:12 which is a lot better than 2:14.

Left his race in the first 10k today. He may be 2:09 already, but if that’s where you’re at right now 2:05 pace is way over your head, even for a little bit when your running a marathon.

Stinson needs to do significant blocks of training at sea level to allow him to run real marathon pace, not marathon effort, for long sessions. Mechanically, Stinson is not a very relaxed runner, so it's important that he run at the actual pace and mechanics of the race, not at a slower pace at altitude, where, theoretically, his CV system is the limiting factor - mechanics is his weakness, so he'll need more time at low altitude so he can spend time in his marathon zone mechanically, not just cardiovascularly.

Good point. Chicago can be brutal on the mechanical side as well.

I also just don’t understand. Brad’s female athlete went out way too fast and DNF

Heardsplits? wrote:

It’s 2018. He knew what I’ve he was running. You don’t need to wait for 5k splits to know where you are at.

Going out at 2:06 pace through five miles does have the ability to ruin your race when 2:11 is pushing the edge of ability. A more conservative approach would have resulted in a much, much better day for him.

What??? Your post is incoherent. Please try again.

Parker went out too fast and didn't back off when he heard the splits.

He's essentially Nenow.

ExtraO2 wrote:

Stinson needs to do significant blocks of training at sea level to allow him to run real marathon pace, not marathon effort, for long sessions. Mechanically, Stinson is not a very relaxed runner, so it's important that he run at the actual pace and mechanics of the race, not at a slower pace at altitude, where, theoretically, his CV system is the limiting factor - mechanics is his weakness, so he'll need more time at low altitude so he can spend time in his marathon zone mechanically, not just cardiovascularly.

I think everyone is overthinking this. Go for 2:13 then 2:10. Dont shoot for your very max level performance from the get go. Get a solid performance under your belt. Learn the marathon little and build from there.

Nenow ran 27:20 not 28:20.

FFF wrote:

He's essentially Nenow.

Get back to racing shorter events then choose a mid-level race and go for the win, not the time. Stop following Kenyan type training, no idea if it’s training or something else producing results. Apply patience in training & racing. Repeat, apply patience in training & racing. Repeat, apply patience in training & racing. A 27:55 10k guy can run a lot faster marathon. Something not working in training, prep, & racing.