Dog Breeding- The best financial investment?

I don't think it is moral to do that. Look at Jurassic Park. Making the dinosaurs and trying to use and control them for money. Besides Alaskan Malamutes are the best dogs.

yeah it's wrong though...

ruff, just like your mother likes it Trebec wrote:

My family is looking for a goldendoodle which is considered a "designer" dog. Due to that distinction, the prices we've seen are $2,000-$3,500 for a damn dog.

I understand breeding does have their costs (food, shots, doctors appointments, etc) but if a litter is getting 4-6 pups at a time at $2,000 a pop, that's pretty damn good money!

TL:DR- invest in puppy-crypto

A racehorse can go for 16 million as a "puppy"

ruff, just like your mother likes it Trebec wrote:

My family is looking for a goldendoodle which is considered a "designer" dog. Due to that distinction, the prices we've seen are $2,000-$3,500 for a damn dog.

I understand breeding does have their costs (food, shots, doctors appointments, etc) but if a litter is getting 4-6 pups at a time at $2,000 a pop, that's pretty damn good money!

TL:DR- invest in puppy-crypto

Goldendoodles are in big demand for these main reasons:

1) They don't shed.

2) They have the superior intelligence of a poodle.

3) They have the sweetness and the need to please of a Golden Retriever.

Unless you need a guard dog, it's hard to beat a Goldendoodle.

Most of these "designer" breeds started as Bowser humping FooFoo, then some huckster selling them as rare, hybrid, blah, blah, blah to unsuspecting simpletons.

BTW - we have a non-hybrid bird dog 1 year old female. Mom and dad were both pedigreed, both have AKC Field Championships, and breed field championships, health certs (hips, eyes, etc.) mom and dad were both featured in our breed's "blue ribbon dogs" publication, so our puppy has the potential to be a top notch dog. Given all of this, we paid $1200. $2-$3k for a backyard mongrel is insane.

It is a good side hack for rural folks living on a working ranch/farm. The problem with breeding dogs in a city is that there often ordinances that regulate breeders that make it very difficult to maintain a business. You can get away with a litter here and there. But there isn't any real money in that. You need a couple litters a year to make it worth the time and effort. People in rural areas do not have to deal with any regulations. Puppies can bark all day and no one will complain. If the puppy kennel gets a little smelly, no one will call the health department. Also, ranchers/farmers know animal husbandry and are pretty good at taking care of breeding dogs and their pups. Puppies do need a lot of attention the first few weeks. You cannot leave them at home for 8-10 hours while you go to work.

Flagpole wrote:

ruff, just like your mother likes it Trebec wrote:

My family is looking for a goldendoodle which is considered a "designer" dog. Due to that distinction, the prices we've seen are $2,000-$3,500 for a damn dog.

I understand breeding does have their costs (food, shots, doctors appointments, etc) but if a litter is getting 4-6 pups at a time at $2,000 a pop, that's pretty damn good money!

TL:DR- invest in puppy-crypto

Goldendoodles are in big demand for these main reasons:

1) They don't shed.

2) They have the superior intelligence of a poodle.

3) They have the sweetness and the need to please of a Golden Retriever.

Unless you need a guard dog, it's hard to beat a Goldendoodle.

There is nothing stopping 2 and 3 from being reversed.

Precious Roy wrote:

Puppies do need a lot of attention the first few weeks. You cannot leave them at home for 8-10 hours while you go to work.

Untrue. Have you never heard of a shed, coop, garage or shop? Rural America is full of sheds, coops, garages and shops. Also guns, if things don't work out.

Had to look it up. The Green Monkey - Earnings $10,440. Didn't turn out too well then. Look up Frankel, £175k stud fee and covers something like 150-200 mares per year. Owned by an oil arab anyway, people don't really make money in horse racing, just old money and oil money changing hands.

life is outside wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Puppies do need a lot of attention the first few weeks. You cannot leave them at home for 8-10 hours while you go to work.

Untrue. Have you never heard of a shed, coop, garage or shop? Rural America is full of sheds, coops, garages and shops. Also guns, if things don't work out.

That is if you are ok with nature taking its course and losing a few pups now and then who do not nurse well or who have problems weaning. But that is bad for business. If you want to make half decent money, you have to spend a lot of time making sure the pups are thriving and working on supplementing nutrition when they are weaning.

workinukracing wrote:

Had to look it up. The Green Monkey - Earnings $10,440. Didn't turn out too well then. Look up Frankel, £175k stud fee and covers something like 150-200 mares per year. Owned by an oil arab anyway, people don't really make money in horse racing, just old money and oil money changing hands.

Irrelevant. None of these Goldendoodles are earning anything.

Many people make money horse racing. Many of them don't have either the need or aptitude to display any wealth.

I knew a woman who looked like a hobo who had a stable pulling in about 400 000 a year.

Angry Willy wrote:

Most of these "designer" breeds started as Bowser humping FooFoo, then some huckster selling them as rare, hybrid, blah, blah, blah to unsuspecting simpletons.

BTW - we have a non-hybrid bird dog 1 year old female. Mom and dad were both pedigreed, both have AKC Field Championships, and breed field championships, health certs (hips, eyes, etc.) mom and dad were both featured in our breed's "blue ribbon dogs" publication, so our puppy has the potential to be a top notch dog. Given all of this, we paid $1200. $2-$3k for a backyard mongrel is insane.

Wow $1200 for an inbred cretin is insane

Angry Willy wrote:

Most of these "designer" breeds started as Bowser humping FooFoo, then some huckster selling them as rare, hybrid, blah, blah, blah to unsuspecting simpletons.

BTW - we have a non-hybrid bird dog 1 year old female. Mom and dad were both pedigreed, both have AKC Field Championships, and breed field championships, health certs (hips, eyes, etc.) mom and dad were both featured in our breed's "blue ribbon dogs" publication, so our puppy has the potential to be a top notch dog. Given all of this, we paid $1200. $2-$3k for a backyard mongrel is insane.

How can it be a non-hybrid if it's part bird?

gene editing will make all this irrelevant in 50 years.

print your doggy genome and have it shipped to your door

Harambe wrote:

gene editing will make all this irrelevant in 50 years.

print your doggy genome and have it shipped to your door

By then, Same thing with children, and delivered by Amazon.

Too damn short for a TL;DR.

Get a pound dog for cheap instead of feeding the 1% breeders.

It turned out to be a terrible financial investment for Michael Vick.

physics defiant wrote:

Angry Willy wrote:

Most of these "designer" breeds started as Bowser humping FooFoo, then some huckster selling them as rare, hybrid, blah, blah, blah to unsuspecting simpletons.

BTW - we have a non-hybrid bird dog 1 year old female. Mom and dad were both pedigreed, both have AKC Field Championships, and breed field championships, health certs (hips, eyes, etc.) mom and dad were both featured in our breed's "blue ribbon dogs" publication, so our puppy has the potential to be a top notch dog. Given all of this, we paid $1200. $2-$3k for a backyard mongrel is insane.

How can it be a non-hybrid if it's part bird?