World 800m Record for 15 year olds smashed

Brandon Miller is definitely going to run 1:47 this season, let’s see these two duke it out at WJs this summer.

Does this young speedster also run the 400m, or the 1500m?

Brandon Mille is the truth wrote:

Brandon Miller is definitely going to run 1:47 this season, let’s see these two duke it out at WJs this summer.

There is no definitely until it actually happens.

Agreed. He could run 1:47 or he could start to put some weight on. I realize that it doesn’t happen often for boys but Miller is still small so it seems that he will have a growth spurt sometime. Miller is 16 putting this other kid 2 seconds ahead of him.

I don’t really care if I’m wrong. I think anyone with two eyes and a sense for talent can see this kid has had room to improve at each and every one of his junctures. 1:47 is not a far cry from his 1:49 last year. That coupled with his already outstanding speed and strength and his progression is basically a given.

I think Miller will progress. Hopefully Max will too. Max has run over 2 seconds faster at 15 than Brandon did though .... so Brandon will have to improve just to be on the same page. The good thing is that, with these two and Ingebritsen, we can look forward to interesting clashes amongst young middle distance runners.

Halifax wrote:

I think Miller will progress. Hopefully Max will too. Max has run over 2 seconds faster at 15 than Brandon did though .... so Brandon will have to improve just to be on the same page. The good thing is that, with these two and Ingebritsen, we can look forward to interesting clashes amongst young middle distance runners.

...Also Tefera, who is less than one year older than Jakob ran a 3:31.63 today, Waithaka who is 5 months older than Jakob ran a 13:10.1 today and Lekuta, who in also less than one year older than Jakob ran a 1:45.4 last year.

Gfhghvghvg wrote:

Halifax wrote:

I think Miller will progress. Hopefully Max will too. Max has run over 2 seconds faster at 15 than Brandon did though .... so Brandon will have to improve just to be on the same page. The good thing is that, with these two and Ingebritsen, we can look forward to interesting clashes amongst young middle distance runners.

...Also Tefera, who is less than one year older than Jakob ran a 3:31.63 today, Waithaka who is 5 months older than Jakob ran a 13:10.1 today and Lekuta, who in also less than one year older than Jakob ran a 1:45.4 last year.

I can never get too excited about young phenoms, it's always so hit or miss as to whether they actually do anything at a senior level. I'd be far more excited to see an 18 year old run 1:43 than a 15 year old run 1:48.

1:47/1:49 isn't yet elite and we've seen it before, sometimes kids just don't progress or get injured or whatever.

Ridiculous run by Burgin though, I really hope he can do some special things. I watched the race today and based on how he came through at the end I think he can run 1:46 this year, as a 16 year old.

On a different note, this list of "age world records" that everyone refers to seems to ignore all of the African countries...? I know there has been age cheating in the past, but someone like Amos who is from Botswana, who as far as I'm aware have a pretty decent system governing birth certificates and the like, just ignored by this list entirely?

Britain keeps producing great 800/1500 runners, Coe, Cram, Elliott, Ovett now this kid.

1:47 is close enough to elite to get excited that a fifteen year old has run it. If you look at the age group wr list linked here, even though it doesn't cover any of the Africans, who may well have run faster at these ages, especially the 18 and 19 year old records, the guys who make it as professionals tend to be the ones who set records at 17, 18, or 19, and rarely before.

So, it remains to be seen here but 1:47 is a really, really good time at that age, one of the strongest 15 year old records.

It is rare that one American high schooler (15-18 years old) runs that fast in a year, and the only Americans that I can think of to run faster than 1:47 in high school are Kersh and Granville.

Gfhghvghvg wrote:

Halifax wrote:

I think Miller will progress. Hopefully Max will too. Max has run over 2 seconds faster at 15 than Brandon did though .... so Brandon will have to improve just to be on the same page. The good thing is that, with these two and Ingebritsen, we can look forward to interesting clashes amongst young middle distance runners.

...Also Tefera, who is less than one year older than Jakob ran a 3:31.63 today, Waithaka who is 5 months older than Jakob ran a 13:10.1 today and Lekuta, who in also less than one year older than Jakob ran a 1:45.4 last year.

I wouldn't trust any ages given for Kenyans or Ethiopians with their track record for age cheating.

The offspring from Harry and his American wife should be speedy.

M.A.G.A...

Gfhghvghvg wrote:

Halifax wrote:

I think Miller will progress. Hopefully Max will too. Max has run over 2 seconds faster at 15 than Brandon did though .... so Brandon will have to improve just to be on the same page. The good thing is that, with these two and Ingebritsen, we can look forward to interesting clashes amongst young middle distance runners.

...Also Tefera, who is less than one year older than Jakob ran a 3:31.63 today, Waithaka who is 5 months older than Jakob ran a 13:10.1 today and Lekuta, who in also less than one year older than Jakob ran a 1:45.4 last year.

No one believes the ages provided by E. Africans. Because in the end almost every single one of them has proven to have lied. As noted by others, even Aden and Amos, who still continue to lie, had both of their agents admitting they were about 23 at the London 800 Oly final, not 18 as claimed. Look at Amos now. He looks at least 30, and Aden has been slowing down due to age.

Here's Burgin's race from last year when he set his first record for 15 year olds. Will he continue to develop? Who knows.

Brandon Mille is the truth wrote:

Brandon Miller is definitely going to run 1:47 this season, let’s see these two duke it out at WJs this summer.

They'll both lose to 25 year old African teenagers from Kenya, Ethiopia, and Eritrea.

As far as I can tell, the youngest American to run1:47 was Elijah Greer, who was well into his 17th year.

Lol Amos does not look 30. Botswana has a good system for registering births very akin to South Africa.

Burgin has a good chance at 1:46 this year so he is infinitely more interesting than the 1:49 American. But Sean Molloy, the u17 record holder in the UK until today, ran 1:48.2 as a kid and now he runs 1:47 as a 20 something.

ex-runner wrote:

Lol Amos does not look 30. Botswana has a good system for registering births very akin to South Africa.

Burgin has a good chance at 1:46 this year so he is infinitely more interesting than the 1:49 American. But Sean Molloy, the u17 record holder in the UK until today, ran 1:48.2 as a kid and now he runs 1:47 as a 20 something.

LOL you guys just make up all of these PC lies. It's hilarious. Botswana went down the tubes in terms of "infrastructure" quite a while ago. They're as reliable as Kenyans and Ethiopians for the most part when it comes to birth records. Yeah, Amos has really developed over the years.

Most top flight youth competitors don't make the jump to being top flight at the next level. Yes, it's quite right (just not PC) to ignore E. African teens in their mid 20s who run 1:43 in junior events.

At the end of the day, regardless of whether he goes on to great things as a senior athlete, running 1:47:5 at the age of 15 is an incredible achievement. If you can't get excited about a modest young lad running that time, then it's probably time to find another sport. Even if he packs it all in and goes to do something else (he might), he has already achieved more than pretty much everyone on these message boards. Anyway, here's the race.

http://www.runjumpthrow.com/videos/23862

Deanouk wrote:

Gfhghvghvg wrote:

...Also Tefera, who is less than one year older than Jakob ran a 3:31.63 today, Waithaka who is 5 months older than Jakob ran a 13:10.1 today and Lekuta, who in also less than one year older than Jakob ran a 1:45.4 last year.

I wouldn't trust any ages given for Kenyans or Ethiopians with their track record for age cheating.

Ha you beat me to it, I was just going to post that Kenya, Zambia and Botswana have plenty of 23 year olds running those times.