Weight room straight after track?

It saves time. As far as physiological benefits beyond going again in the afternoon I'm not certain (maybe it helps with running hard when tired?), but I do this and it has worked extremely well for me.

jedi master yoda wrote:

It saves time. As far as physiological benefits beyond going again in the afternoon I'm not certain (maybe it helps with running hard when tired?), but I do this and it has worked extremely well for me.

Cool. Do you have a short break and any food in between or pretty much catch your breath and get into it?

No idea if there is any evidence to this, but I have heard that lifting right after running would be beneficial to help promote good posture and strength when you are already fatigued - to help for the later parts of your races

Yeah if you listened to the Steve Magnes podcast with Webb they talk about hitting the gym right after a track session. Also remember he said that the next day or two was VERY easy and that was Alan Webb a superbly gifted athlete. I think as long as you are smart about it there'd be no issues. It does keep with the ol' hard days hard, easy days easy philosophy.

Was this for lifting lower body or upper body only?

quickndirty wrote:

Yeah if you listened to the Steve Magnes podcast with Webb they talk about hitting the gym right after a track session. Also remember he said that the next day or two was VERY easy and that was Alan Webb a superbly gifted athlete. I think as long as you are smart about it there'd be no issues. It does keep with the ol' hard days hard, easy days easy philosophy.

[quote] Are there benefits to doing this sometimes? Speaking as a 5/10k runner. [quote]

there are, as far as I am aware, no studies comparing doing your weights straight after a workout versus doing the weights later, or the next day.

there is good evidence to suggest that, if you want to do them both on the same day, you, that is you the 5km/10km runner, should do the track workout first, then do the weights. athletes in explosive events, jumpers, throwers, sprinters etc., should do them the other way round, weights first, then track.

I personally do my weights/gym session right after a track workout. I cool down on the track as normal. then I go inside and eat a banana and a peanut butter sandwich I brought with me while changing into clean kit. then I jog a mile on the treadmill. then I do around fifteen minutes of foam rolling and then I start my gym session.

I also have a water bottle with me and re-fill it four or five times from the coolers in the gym. this definitely helps.

cheers.

I do it after both track and tempo workouts, but not immediately after. Instead, I sub it in where a 2nd run would go, i.e., workout at 5am, weights at 12pm.

And always start with at least 5 sets of squats in the rack. Always. Once my body acclimated to squats 2-3 times a week (took a couple weeks), my next day runs (generally, easy mileage) we're completely unaffected and my endurance increased dramatically, particularly in the area of long run recovery. YMMV.

lately i've been squatting (high weight/low reps, working up to x3 or even x1) and doing a hard run after (tempo or long run). legs are primed to go with little warmup after that, and aren't that beat up from squatting yet. but the next couple days are easy/recovery runs. running before weights might be better i'd prefer not to walk into the gym already sweaty and disheveled, or have to change clothes.

Thanks for the replies here guys.

I'm fairly new to the weight room stuff but I'm enjoying it and am feeling stronger. I think I'm going to keep doing it two days per week, once after track workout and once after tempo run/longer intervals. Later on I might start alternating every other week to be straight after the workouts for one week and then later in the day the following week so that there is a harder weight session when I'm more rested from the track and an easier one when it's straight after. Right now though I'm so new to the weight room that I feel anything I do is helping so I don't need to play with it much. It's all low hanging fruit atm.

All I'm doing is trap bar deadlift, KB swings, Pull-ups, Press-ups, Box jumps, single leg deadlifts and back lunges with a bunch of ancillary/core/hip stuff at the end. Mostly getting my nervous system used to the movements. I hope I don't put on weight though.

squatter wrote:

lately i've been squatting (high weight/low reps, working up to x3 or even x1) and doing a hard run after (tempo or long run). legs are primed to go with little warmup after that, and aren't that beat up from squatting yet. but the next couple days are easy/recovery runs. running before weights might be better i'd prefer not to walk into the gym already sweaty and disheveled, or have to change clothes.

Consolidation of stress. Do most important work first.

Lift on your hard running days. Preferably a few hours after but never before a hard effort.

Lifting before a hard effort will negatively affect the speed of that hard effort. The affect is more pronounced the faster the effort. Ex: tempo run not as affected as intervals.

Lifting right after a hard effort will result in a pronounced decrease in the amount of weight that can be lifted. If that is ok with you then proceed. A better way would be to eat a powerbar or something similar and wait about 30min.

Either way, ensure you go through a proper warmup including mobility work in the legs before you squat as a hard running effort will leave you tight.

Alan

I assume you are talking about strength and running workouts for distance or MD. If so, you might want to experiment with a strength session followed by a break of an hour or so and then a quality running session.

The potentiation that occurs with the strength work serves as good preparation for intense running. You should make sure you hydrate and snack in between to enter the running workout with necessary fueling.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Consolidation of stress. Do most important work first.

Lift on your hard running days. Preferably a few hours after but never before a hard effort.

Lifting before a hard effort will negatively affect the speed of that hard effort. The affect is more pronounced the faster the effort. Ex: tempo run not as affected as intervals.

Lifting right after a hard effort will result in a pronounced decrease in the amount of weight that can be lifted. If that is ok with you then proceed. A better way would be to eat a powerbar or something similar and wait about 30min.

Either way, ensure you go through a proper warmup including mobility work in the legs before you squat as a hard running effort will leave you tight.

Alan

What do you do for mobility work, Alan? Hadn't thought I needed much in-between as I'm so warm and loose from the track.

Yes. Also, helps cool down by forcing blood to the muscles worked. Plus lifting after makes more sense from a firing pattern aspect. The CNS can move the weight and contract slower then what it takes to run. However, a heavy or exhaustive weight room session before a run will mess with the CNS therefore technique suffers and muscles can over compensate leading to injury.