I am trying to find data on how many current elites/ amateurs can run the 10 k under 30 minutes ? is it common for elites to hit sub 30 ? Thank you
I am trying to find data on how many current elites/ amateurs can run the 10 k under 30 minutes ? is it common for elites to hit sub 30 ? Thank you
most of pro runners
There's 8 women all-time.
In Britain in 2016 there were 50 men who broke 30mins. Population of Britain is around 30 million men. There's probably another 100-200 men who have broken 30mins in the past who would include in that 30 million. For simplicity, let's call that 300 men in 30 million which is one in a hundred thousand.
Thanks for that. Really interesting . I wonder how are the stats over there in kenya
Well, you see, properly trained, ANYBODY can run a 10K in under 30 minutes. Since the average male could do about 33-34 minutes right now, sub-30 would be within reach of most people.
Internetsherlock wrote:
Thanks for that. Really interesting . I wonder how are the stats over there in kenya
Quite a few more I'm sure but not as many as you'd think.
The only people I've ever seen break 30-mins at my local road races were a couple of Kenya's who came each year to get the prize money. Even the local 2hr19 marathon guy only used to run 31mins at best.
Note also that in the NCAA 10000m Div1 final in 2016 only 20 of the 24 broke 30-mins and last year it was 22 of 24. The winner didn't break 29-mins in either year. Beyond a few pro's these are the best 10,000m runners in the USA.
Despite what some LetsRunners will have you believe running that fast is a lot rarer than you believe.
According to IAAF lists there were 1088 people who ran under 30:00 last year.
Don’t quote results of championship finals when looking at times. 144 D1 guys broke 30minutes last year. Add naia and D2 and D3 and you have 200 college runners just in the US in one year.
Predictor wrote:
Don’t quote results of championship finals when looking at times. 144 D1 guys broke 30minutes last year. Add naia and D2 and D3 and you have 200 college runners just in the US in one year.
I'm thinking more than that have the ability to do it, but run other events during track season. There are a lot of guys who run between 30 and 31 on cross country courses who could likely break 30. Sub-30 seems to be the point that a lot of guys can get to, and sub 29 is a considerable step up.
I agree that there are significantly more that can do it. I was staying with the facts because there were a few posters thinking that the number is small and they are ready to question assumptions. Many distance runners are doing the 1500, 5k, or steeple. Add them all together with the actual 10k guys and I would put the number at nearly double the 200 that achieved it.
Few said: In Britain in 2016 there were 50 men who broke 30mins.
I'm not sure where those numbers come from, maybe you are including road races. (I will admit it isn't obvious whether the OP meant on the track, or just generally beat 30:00 for 10km).
according to Power of 10 (link below) 29 British men broke 30:00 for 10km, on the track, in 2016. in 2017, 35 men did it.
the first man under 30:00 was Taisto Maki (FIN), 29:52.6 Helsinki 17-Sep-1939
the first man under 29:00 was Emil Zatopek (TCH) 28:54.2 Brussels 1-Jun-1954
the first man under 28:00 was Ron Clarke (AUS) 27:39.4 Oslo 14-Jul-1965
the first man under 27:00 was Yobes Ondieki (KEN) 26:58.38 Oslo 10-Jul-1993
according to the list I link to below, there have only been 672 perfomances faster than Dave Bedford's 1973 world record of 27:30.8 (I don't know how authoritative that list is, but it is updated regularly).
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Power of 10
http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=10000&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&year=2016Men's 10,000m.
http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_10kok.htmGravy wrote:
Well, you see, properly trained, ANYBODY can run a 10K in under 30 minutes. Since the average male could do about 33-34 minutes right now, sub-30 would be within reach of most people.
Uh, no.
Are you seriously letting him bait you with that?
You must be new.
Cottonshirt wrote:
Few said: In Britain in 2016 there were 50 men who broke 30mins.
I'm not sure where those numbers come from, maybe you are including road races. (I will admit it isn't obvious whether the OP meant on the track, or just generally beat 30:00 for 10km).
My numbers came from Power of 10!! :-)
Appears I used the 10K link rather than 10000m. I'm sure there's some overlap between the two groups.
http://www.thepowerof10.info/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=10K&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&year=2016According to TFRRS, there are 90 collegiate runners under 30 min in the 10k so far this year
https://www.tfrrs.org/lists/2278/2018_All_College_Outdoor_Track_List?standard_event_hnd=22&gender=m
ACL Thief wrote:
Are you seriously letting him bait you with that?
You must be new.
Uh, no.
Cottonshirt wrote:
according to the list I link to below, there have only been 672 perfomances faster than Dave Bedford's 1973 world record of 27:30.8 (I don't know how authoritative that list is, but it is updated regularly).
Oh, only 672. What a relevant, meaningful point of comparison you chose for a thread about running sub-30. Go Britain!
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