Basically I have been doing chest and biceps as part of my core routine over the last few weeks with weight I can only do about 3-4 sets of. I also run about 70-85 mpw at maximum. I just wondered if doing upper body weightlifting is detrimental to my running if its maybe once a week or every other week? Trying to maintain core and upper body definition but not gain an extra muscle mass.
It's not detrimental to your running. If you are doing it once a week, it's not helping your definition either. Pretty much pointless.
It is damn hard to gain mass running 85 mpw. It shouldn't even factor into your thinking.
Ever hear of Mo Farah? Press-ups turned him into a 4 x gold medalist,
why just once a week? its a good start but go up if you can handle it. your not gonna be gaining much mass(if any) running 80mpw.
Trying to maintain core and upper body definition but not gain an extra muscle mass.
I sincerely hope you are NOT doing these exercises "to maintain definition."
because, that would be a silly thing to do.
but you may well need to do upper body exercises as part of your core routine.
whether you need to do them depends on you, as an individual. training is specific. you do specific training to make specific adaptations to make you better suited to meet your performance goals. if your core is made of sponge cake then you need to firm it up and make it work for you, and this has nothing to do with definition or muscle mass.
your core is, as its name implies, at the core of your posture control. it determines the extent of your movement vocabulary. it is fundamental to the type of runner you are.
and, incidentally, you haven't been doing weightlifting.
cheers.
I know im not doing any serious weightlifting, but a few years ago when I wasn't running like I am now I did weight lift regularly. So part of this is to not lose all of my upper body strength. I might not put on any muscle but will it inhibit weight loss?
RejectJogger wrote:
why just once a week? its a good start but go up if you can handle it. your not gonna be gaining much mass(if any) running 80mpw.
I guess my question is will arms, shoulders and chest benefit my core at all as a runner or should I focus entirely on core and lower half stability and ignore weights. Free weights are the only kind I have access to.
I didn't say you are not lifting weights.
I said you are not doing weightlifting.
different thing.
words have meanings.
cheers.
Cottonshirt wrote:
I didn't say you are not lifting weights.
I said you are not doing weightlifting.
different thing.
words have meanings.
cheers.
and I said I'm not doing serious weightlifting. You are the one who is confused.
no. you are confused.
you are not doing weightlifting, because weigthlifting is a sport. athletes compete against each other to lift the maximum weight in two specific lifts and the one who lifts the most wins. that is weightlifting.
you are not doing that.
therefore, you are not doing weightlifting.
you are weight training, which involves lifting weights.
different thing.
words have meanings.
cheers.
That's a tough one. It's good to maintain basic strength but any weight gain will be a detriment. For most distance runners it's a non-issue. It's important to remember that for every lb of muscle you put on, that lb of muscle has to counteract the weight gain with a better performance and be able to carry the rest of the weight on your body as well down the track. This is true for sprinters also.
Cottonshirt wrote:
no. you are confused.
you are not doing weightlifting, because weigthlifting is a sport. athletes compete against each other to lift the maximum weight in two specific lifts and the one who lifts the most wins. that is weightlifting.
you are not doing that.
therefore, you are not doing weightlifting.
you are weight training, which involves lifting weights.
different thing.
words have meanings.
cheers.
pedantic much?
@Cotton wrote:
Cottonshirt wrote:
no. you are confused.
you are not doing weightlifting, because weigthlifting is a sport. athletes compete against each other to lift the maximum weight in two specific lifts and the one who lifts the most wins. that is weightlifting.
you are not doing that.
therefore, you are not doing weightlifting.
you are weight training, which involves lifting weights.
different thing.
words have meanings.
cheers.
pedantic much?
Why can't he use capital letters tho? To much weight lifting.
@Cotton wrote:
pedantic much?
Yes, shallow and pedantic.
it is the first resort of the wrong to start slinging names.
on a forum where we discuss training, training methods, training philosophies, training theories and the science, if any, behind it all, a person who can do something as basic and fundamental as name the type of training under discussion is called a pedant.
you seriously couldn't make it up.
Cottonshirt wrote:
it is the first resort of the wrong to start slinging names.
on a forum where we discuss training, training methods, training philosophies, training theories and the science, if any, behind it all, a person who can do something as basic and fundamental as name the type of training under discussion is called a pedant.
you seriously couldn't make it up.
Pedantic isn't a name. It is a description. In this case, an accurate description of you, based on your posts. Cheers yourself.
Skip the curls and do pull ups.
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Ever hear of Mo Farah? Press-ups turned him into a 4 x gold medalist,
Learn from a physics training master.
Alex Hutchinson
Cardio or Weights first in Kenya???
Lifting once per week is not pointless. For runners, the purpose of lifting is not hypertrophy but muscle recruitment. Lifting helps to develop the neural pathways that allow you to more easily activate muscles. In some cases this can help you draw on fast twitch fibers at the very end of a race. In other cases it will simply improve form and prevent injury because you are avoiding delayed firing of certain muscle groups or inefficient posture. For instance, a lot of runners benefit from doing a set of squats before going for a run. It can lead to an observable improvement in form, without any conscious effort at form manipulation (something I generally oppose unless it's to counteract a bad habit that you consciously but mistakenly adopted, like arching your back or never touching your heel to the ground). Lifting once per week will produce some of these benefits, especially because the lifting compliments the running; it's not like you lift once and then do nothing all week. Sprints, hills, and plyos serve similar purposes as well.
I wouldn't bother with curls, but the bench press and pullups are good exercises. Use dumbbells instead of the bar. Squats are also great.
800 dude wrote:
Lifting once per week is not pointless. For runners, the purpose of lifting is not hypertrophy but muscle recruitment. Lifting helps to develop the neural pathways that allow you to more easily activate muscles. In some cases this can help you draw on fast twitch fibers at the very end of a race. In other cases it will simply improve form and prevent injury because you are avoiding delayed firing of certain muscle groups or inefficient posture. For instance, a lot of runners benefit from doing a set of squats before going for a run. It can lead to an observable improvement in form, without any conscious effort at form manipulation (something I generally oppose unless it's to counteract a bad habit that you consciously but mistakenly adopted, like arching your back or never touching your heel to the ground). Lifting once per week will produce some of these benefits, especially because the lifting compliments (sic) the running; it's not like you lift once and then do nothing all week. Sprints, hills, and plyos serve similar purposes as well.
I wouldn't bother with curls, but the bench press and pullups are good exercises. Use dumbbells instead of the bar. Squats are also great.
Don't you know the difference between 'complements' and 'compliments'?
Please try again.
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