Casein Protein at night?

If you eat a well balanced diet, with sufficient calories then it is literally impossible to be protein deficient. Don't worry about protein or specific nutrients. Just eat real whole foods.

Eat plenty of whole grain, legumes, fruits, vegetables,nuts and seeds.

No I don’t take it. It’s probably not worth it. It will not aid in recovery.

Just eat a good diet and forget about the supplements.

That stuff gives me really bad gas to the point where my wife was going to leave me if I didn't tone it down. ?

Casein protein, similar to whey, originates from dairy animals' drain. It represents approximately 80 percent of drain's aggregate protein content, with whey constituting the other 20 percent. Casein is insoluble, which implies it's the strong protein in drain.

You may hear casein alluded to as calcium caseinate, which is a gesture to the calcium particle related with its protein structure. (On the off chance that any rec center rats ask you, now you can set them straight.)

Notwithstanding being utilized as a supplement, casein's interesting capacity to gel has made it famous as a fastener, filler, and a pivotal piece of the cheddar making process. Strikingly, casein's gel-control has likewise made it valuable in plastics and pastes.

Try not to go eating that container of Elmer's simply yet. Casein supplements are a more successful approach to get the protein you hunger for.

I take casein around 30 minutes before going to bed on days I have trained extra hard or have done restistance training. Naturally, I can't physically feel the difference, but the science around it is pretty solid, so I assume it's working.

Just to clear up som confusion about this: there are some studies that suggest that taking a large dose of the slow-working casein protein right before bed helps stimulate protein synthesis at night. Usually we don't take a sufficient amount of protein that late to have a nocturnal benefit on recovery and protein synthesis. But I think the study suggested it after resistance training, and not after endurance training, but considering the recovery of the connective tissue, the muscles (of course) and other aerobic qualities that are improved by amino acids, I take it regardless.

Yes, it works. Getting powder is likely to be cheaper, but you could also eat Greek Yogurt, which is mostly casein.

http://scienceofultra.libsyn.com/42-optimizing-protein-intake-with-luc-van-loon-phd

Libertarian vegan wrote:

If you eat a well balanced diet, with sufficient calories then it is literally impossible to be protein deficient. Don't worry about protein or specific nutrients. Just eat real whole foods.

Eat plenty of whole grain, legumes, fruits, vegetables,nuts and seeds.

The reason to take protein supplements isn't that you're deficient, it's that supplementation improves your hormone profile and increases the rate of protein synthesis, essentially speeding recovery. This is not controversial, and almost all elites take protein.

I wouldn't worry about casein vs. whey, though. As long as the protein is complete and you're getting 20 or so grams.

Libertarian vegan wrote:

If you eat a well balanced diet, with sufficient calories then it is literally impossible to be protein deficient. Don't worry about protein or specific nutrients. Just eat real whole foods.

Eat plenty of whole grain, legumes, fruits, vegetables,nuts and seeds.

This! And nice handle as I am also a Libertarian who follows a Vegan diet. Does wonders for recovery of the legs.

800 dude wrote:

Libertarian vegan wrote:

If you eat a well balanced diet, with sufficient calories then it is literally impossible to be protein deficient. Don't worry about protein or specific nutrients. Just eat real whole foods.

Eat plenty of whole grain, legumes, fruits, vegetables,nuts and seeds.

The reason to take protein supplements isn't that you're deficient, it's that supplementation improves your hormone profile and increases the rate of protein synthesis, essentially speeding recovery. This is not controversial, and almost all elites take protein.

I wouldn't worry about casein vs. whey, though. As long as the protein is complete and you're getting 20 or so grams.

From the article, "There are no vitamins or mineral supplements, no special protein drinks or sports drinks pumped full of electrolytes that you might find in Olympic kiosks and every corner store in other countries"

Libertarian vegan wrote:

If you eat a well balanced diet, with sufficient calories then it is literally impossible to be protein deficient. Don't worry about protein or specific nutrients. Just eat real whole foods.

Eat plenty of whole grain, legumes, fruits, vegetables,nuts and seeds.

As someone already posted, this is not about being deficient or anything. Scientific studies have shown that casein supplementation before bed is beneficial for enhanching protein synthesis at night, thus aiding in recovery. An objective double blind study has found this. Whether you believe in supplementation or not is another thing, but the results are promising.

dwiyna wrote:

Libertarian vegan wrote:

If you eat a well balanced diet, with sufficient calories then it is literally impossible to be protein deficient. Don't worry about protein or specific nutrients. Just eat real whole foods.

Eat plenty of whole grain, legumes, fruits, vegetables,nuts and seeds.

As someone already posted, this is not about being deficient or anything. Scientific studies have shown that casein supplementation before bed is beneficial for enhanching protein synthesis at night, thus aiding in recovery. An objective double blind study has found this. Whether you believe in supplementation or not is another thing, but the results are promising.

Why wonder who funded the studies?

You may get enough protein in your diet normally, but every study that's been coming out lately has been showing the advantage of higher levels of protein. And no, they're not funded by big protein. Example below.

I don't know why so many get their panties in a bundle about protein supplements. It's just dried milk. And it's cheaper and fewer calories per gram of protein than other sources of protein.

Your body is more likely to put the added protein to good use than it is with most things that you eat that you don't really "need".

http://drc.bmj.com/content/bmjdrc/4/1/e000258.full.pdf

Protein this wrote:

You may get enough protein in your diet normally, but every study that's been coming out lately has been showing the advantage of higher levels of protein. And no, they're not funded by big protein. Example below.

I don't know why so many get their panties in a bundle about protein supplements. It's just dried milk. And it's cheaper and fewer calories per gram of protein than other sources of protein.

Your body is more likely to put the added protein to good use than it is with most things that you eat that you don't really "need".

http://drc.bmj.com/content/bmjdrc/4/1/e000258.full.pdf

If you want more casein protein why not just eat Greek yogurt instead?

Libertarian vegan wrote:

If you want more casein protein why not just eat Greek yogurt instead?

That's exactly what I do, but greek yogurt is a bit more expensive and more calories than casein powder and has to be refrigerated, so I see why someone might opt for the powder.

Casein protein = cancer. Strong correlation.

Osteoporosis and cancer rates quite high in very dairy rich countries. There is a certain irony with people who also think that calcium/milk will help their bone strength.

Cows milk? We are the only mammals that consistently guzzle the milk of other mammals on a regular basis

because the dairy industry fools us into thinking we need "quality" protein. Protein from other aminos is great.

Cows milk is perfect for a newborn calf. Why on earth would so many humans want to also drink it and have that kind of protein?

CaseinCancer wrote:

Casein protein = cancer. Strong correlation.

Osteoporosis and cancer rates quite high in very dairy rich countries. There is a certain irony with people who also think that calcium/milk will help their bone strength.

Cows milk? We are the only mammals that consistently guzzle the milk of other mammals on a regular basis

because the dairy industry fools us into thinking we need "quality" protein. Protein from other aminos is great.

Cows milk is perfect for a newborn calf. Why on earth would so many humans want to also drink it and have that kind of protein?

+1

Protein this wrote:

Yes, it works. Getting powder is likely to be cheaper, but you could also eat Greek Yogurt, which is mostly casein.

http://scienceofultra.libsyn.com/42-optimizing-protein-intake-with-luc-van-loon-phd

It works. Wow you've convinced me, I wasn't sure but know I know it works! Thanks for the info as well in the powder which may or may not be cheaper but probably is.