So if i start doping, but change nothing else in my training...

Your training will become faster whether you like it or not.

You would most likely see a very big, positive change in your running. However, you would be a cheat and none of it would matter.

It depends on what kind of training you do and the PEDs you use.

Gravy wrote:

Would I see any measurable improvement?

Possibly a little bit due to improved recovery.

You have to understand that doping allows you to train harder. This is why doping works. Athletes can train more intensely, recover faster, and be ready to hammer a workout again quickly. They still have to put in the work, though. This is also why dopers psychologically justify their results. They've actually been training their butts off so they think they deserve the results.

observer_of_things wrote:

Gravy wrote:

Would I see any measurable improvement?

Possibly a little bit due to improved recovery.

You have to understand that doping allows you to train harder. This is why doping works. Athletes can train more intensely, recover faster, and be ready to hammer a workout again quickly. They still have to put in the work, though. This is also why dopers psychologically justify their results. They've actually been training their butts off so they think they deserve the results.

But it still depends on which type of doping.

When a cyclist was hooked up to a blood bag for a transfusion on a Tour de France rest day, it wasn't their training or even the recovery that improved.

It was the extra red blood cells running through their veins that made them fly up those mountains with relative ease compared to other cyclists.

But in reality, cause I listen to Renato, no...you wouldn't improve at all, you'd probably get worse.

So, they were able to compete more intensely?

Regular Poster wrote:

trollism wrote:

But it still depends on which type of doping.

When a cyclist was hooked up to a blood bag for a transfusion on a Tour de France rest day, it wasn't their training or even the recovery that improved.

It was the extra red blood cells running through their veins that made them fly up those mountains with relative ease compared to other cyclists.

But in reality, cause I listen to Renato, no...you wouldn't improve at all, you'd probably get worse.

So, they were able to compete more intensely?

Yes. What's your point?

I think you were agreeing with the previous comment, but you seem to think you were disagreeing with them.

That's it. I still love ya, dude; don't get your panties in wad.

Regular Poster wrote:

I think you were agreeing with the previous comment, but you seem to think you were disagreeing with them.

That's it. I still love ya, dude; don't get your panties in wad.

Not really. He implied that the major reason from improvements after doping was to increase intensity in training and to recover quicker from said training.

My point was that doping could also improve competition performance directly, depending on which method was used.