Anyone else here consider themselves pro-Animal Rights and also pro-Choice?

Maybe he has a point. In general, people today do not have solid logic skills. Their arguments and beliefs are based more on emotion or political outcomes than logic.

Why do you say these aren't the same? Two organisms both without a voice. Explain why they are not the same. Maybe you have a logical error with this belief.

I would have brought up the fact that many animals abandon and/or eat their babies.

I'll be pro-animal rights when when Sarah Mclaughlin starts making commercials for the poor and helpless who are continually downtrodden on by the right wing of this country who consider them less than animals.

Pro Nature wrote:

I would have brought up the fact that many animals abandon and/or eat their babies.

Many? More like some or few. Very few in fact.

And abandon is a subjective word. You could argue by definition that humans abandon their young at age 18, but no one really thinks that is what is actually happening. Just because some species young are independent at an earlier age doesn't mean they are being abandoned.

false equivalence.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:

I'll be pro-animal rights when when Sarah Mclaughlin starts making commercials for the poor and helpless who are continually downtrodden on by the right wing of this country who consider them less than animals.

When has the right wing said that anyone poor amd helpless is less than an animal? You are a disgusting liar.

Serious Question... wrote:

It kinda rattled me. I know these aren't the same, but I was at a loss for words. How would you have responded? (Admittedly, my response was basically: Hmm...)

How are these not the same? Seems like you are just refusing to acknowledge that your viewpoints don't make sense when compared to each other.

It's perfectly consistent.

As we all know, humans are bestowed their rights at the moment of birth. Not a second too late or too soon.

However, animals have rights throughout their whole existence. This is why the eggs of endangered species are protected under law.

B-but humans aren't endangered! Correct. This is why murder should be legal, much like deer, varmint, and pheasant hunting. Cull the heard, so to speak.

Cheers!

Animals are cute. Babies are annoying AF. Good enough reasoning for me.

Animals should have the right to vote.

Salve wrote:

However, animals have rights throughout their whole existence. This is why the eggs of endangered species are protected under law.

But I have dissected plenty of fetal pigs and feral cats in my day without prosecution, so this argument isn't quite 100% true.

By the way, there IS more than one way to skin a cat.

It all comes down to whether or not you think of a fetus as a living organism. If you do, then yes, it's probably hypocritical to want to speak for animals that can't speak for themselves but not for unborn humans that can't. If you don't consider the fetus to be an autonomous living organism but think a dog or bunny is one, then it's not hypocritical.

Why don't we eat Cats/Dogs/Horses in this country? Seems like there a lot of high kill shelters. Why do we waste this food source?

this is a running website

We are very different than animals.

We are to eat animals and have dominance over them.

"They traded God's truth for a lie, and they worshipped and served the creation instead of the creator ..."

Roman 1:25

Also, abortion is demonic, plain and simple.

Ok, now how many of you want to harm or, even, kill me for speaking the truth?

Learn_something wrote:

Also, abortion is demonic, plain and simple.

Most abortions are spontaneous abortions. These usually occur without the mother ever even knowing that fertilization occurred. Something like 50% of conceptions spontaneously abort in the first week.

How can something be "demonic" when it is almost always unintentional and unknown to the mother?

Learn_something wrote:

We are very different than animals.

We are to eat animals and have dominance over them.

"They traded God's truth for a lie, and they worshipped and served the creation instead of the creator ..."

Roman 1:25

Also, abortion is demonic, plain and simple.

Ok, now how many of you want to harm or, even, kill me for speaking the truth?

Leviticus 21:17-23

Whosoever … hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookback, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken … He shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries.

Handicapped people are not allowed to be Christians!

If we're going to take a stand based on biblical quotes, I would prefer we take a stand against disgusting handicapped people!

Who wants to kill me for speaking the truth according to god?

Anyone else here completely skip over posts that start off with a biblical post?