Team Tactics in 3200m

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  • Team Tactician

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/21/2017 10:58pm EDT

    So me and my two teammates are all running in a 3200m this weekend. This will be my first ever 3200m but so far (first ever track season) I have run 4:58 and 2:13. My two teammates are both mid 10:50 guys. My coach suggested that we use team tactics in the race. I will take us through the first the first 800 in 2:40, my teammate through the 1600 in 5:20, and my other teammate through 2400 in 8:00. It will be every man for himself the last 800 and my coach is looking for a time around 10:30. Is this a good idea?

  • Mikael Slagowsky

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/21/2017 11:17pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    I mean... it's not a BAD idea. Whether you guys can pull it off is another story.

  • Team Tactician

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/22/2017 2:16pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    bump

  • Accidentallycoach

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/23/2017 9:18pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    It seems like a bad idea to set off at 10:40 pace and then try to speed up the last 800. Why not go out in 2:37,5:15,7:52, then just hold it for 10:30? If you're not in 10:30 shape, this won't work.

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    dsrunner

    Member since 10/12/2007.

    2,258 posts. Last post 5 days ago.
    7 years ago 03/23/2017 9:37pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    You should lead the whole way, they follow close as long as they can. No reason to jockey around. If by chance you fall off 80s (say 82) whichever teammate feels capable can take over. Leading is much better experience for you.

  • Team Tactician

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/23/2017 10:38pm EDT
    re: dsrunner

    3200m tomorrow, I ran a 4:56 1600m yesterday. I'll give an update on how it goes.

  • really not fast

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/23/2017 10:56pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    It seems a little far fetched if your teammates have only run 10:5X, thats a pretty big chunk of time to take off though not impossible (if you are sub 5 you should be able to run around 10:30 though)

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    colder and wiser

    Member since 02/16/2016.

    1,584 posts. Last post 9 hours ago.
    7 years ago 03/24/2017 12:32am EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    This is actually a trick question. The real question is: can you listen to your coach and execute a race plan as directed?

    Your coach's idea is fine. Listen to your coach. Follow his advice and see what happens.

  • Jayordon

    Jayordon

    Member since 09/18/2016.

    590 posts. Last post 1 month ago.
    7 years ago 03/24/2017 9:50am EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    This sounds like a pretty good strategy. Just make sure that if any of you feel the pace dropping, don't be afraid to take the lead for whoever is fading. The part that will be the hardest is between the 1600m mark and the 1400. Put whoever you guys think is fastest in that part.

  • Jayordon

    Jayordon

    Member since 09/18/2016.

    590 posts. Last post 1 month ago.
    7 years ago 03/24/2017 9:53am EDT
    re: Jayordon

    Typo, not between the 1600 and 1400. I meant the 1600 and 2400.

  • Team Tactician

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/24/2017 10:13pm EDT
    re: Jayordon

    Race didn't go quite as planned. I went 80,80,81,80,83,83,79,80 for a 10:46. Both of my teammates went out too wast and finished over 11:00. Very happy with my first ever 3200 though.

  • Team Tactician

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/24/2017 10:16pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    *fast

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    colder and wiser

    Member since 02/16/2016.

    1,584 posts. Last post 9 hours ago.
    7 years ago 03/24/2017 10:49pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    Well done. Even splits as long as you can hold them, pick it up at the end. That's probably closer to a race plan working out than 99% of HS runners get on their first 3200.

  • We where young once

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/24/2017 10:57pm EDT
    re: colder and wiser

    colder and wiser wrote:

    Well done. Even splits as long as you can hold them, pick it up at the end. That's probably closer to a race plan working out than 99% of HS runners get on their first 3200.

    +1. Nice work. You'll be sub-10:30 in no time. Keep plugging bruh.

  • Nope!!!!!

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/24/2017 11:04pm EDT
    re: Team Tactician

    Congrats! Great splits for a first ever 3200, especially for March. Nice work.

  • Sdfsdfsdfsdf

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/25/2017 12:01am EDT
    re: Nope!!!!!

    Good job.

    For the record, that isn't team tactics, that is working together. Team tactics is one guy throwing in surges to throw off your opponent, trying to box him in, or all agreeing to force the other team to lead, etc.

  • The coach of things

    Anonymous Poster

    7 years ago 03/25/2017 12:04am EDT
    re: dsrunner

    dsrunner wrote:

    You should lead the whole way, they follow close as long as they can. No reason to jockey around. If by chance you fall off 80s (say 82) whichever teammate feels capable can take over. Leading is much better experience for you.

    Have you ever won a race?

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