Collusion to defeat Cheserek

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7 years ago 02/25/2017 12:23pm EST

A unionization of us top NCAA runners may be the only way for Cheserek to taken down on the track. Think about it... This union could easily wreak havoc on his races. With some collusion between us, we could force Cheserek to win his first race of a meet in a fast time (7:40, 13:20, 3:52, etc). Then one of us runners who didn't set the pace in the first race could throw down the hammer on "king" Cheserek and finally deflower him once and for all. Why has this not been done already?? What have we been doing for the last 3 years at nationals? Are there any suggestions to make this plan better? Any discussion is welcomed.

7 years ago 02/25/2017 12:35pm EST

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7 years ago 02/25/2017 1:45pm EST

re: Slamin

Same problem as with Mo vs. the Kenyans and Ethiopians: Of course that might work in theory, but it is never applied strictly in a race that counts. That is because every runner in that race wants to get the best for himself and that way all attempts end up half-hearted. For it to work in practice, you would need a very clear plan and hierarchy, and everybody needs to stick to it, even if that means he will do worse than without the plan.

Example: 10.000 m at 2015 Worlds

If Tanui and Muchiri would have pushed all the way from 0 to 9000 m, Kamworor maybe could have taken Mo down. But no, they pushed it a bit, but at 15:50 (race time, not video), Kamworor had to do some of the work himself and spend energy that he missed in the end. (Even more mistakes, as at 18:30, Mo tries to control the pace from the front and it's again Kamworor who has to stop this instead of one of his "helpers".)

Video:

https://youtu.be/Hl5JPmlM_Dg?t=4m2s

7 years ago 02/25/2017 2:24pm EST

re: Slamin

Otter: "Deflower"?

Boone: Relax...he's rolling.

7 years ago 02/25/2017 3:48pm EST

re: Deadstream

Deadstream wrote:
Otter: "Deflower"?
Boone: Relax...he's rolling.

Who are otter and Boone?

Anyway, the second response was a good one and had a good example of the 10,000 at world's.

On the other hand, a similar example would be usatf indoor nationals last year in the men's 3000m. They worked together to ensure the likely best runner in the race was unlikely to win. One runner was willing to completely sacrifice himself, even stepping wide after his pacing duties were complete.

There was no rules broken in that race, even if some people found it distasteful. The same thing could happen in the ncaa as long as everybody could claim that they thought they were giving themself the best chance they had to win. The pacer who steps wide could just claim he couldn't keep up the pace and that it wasn't planned.

Of course, this strategy would only work if you got an entire heat to run very fast to force ches's heat to be fast and the other heats were allowed to be slow, so that fresh runners would face him in the finals.

7 years ago 02/25/2017 4:28pm EST

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7 years ago 02/25/2017 4:50pm EST

re: in theory it works

in theory it works wrote:
Same problem as with Mo vs. the Kenyans and Ethiopians: Of course that might work in theory, but it is never applied strictly in a race that counts. That is because every runner in that race wants to get the best for himself and that way all attempts end up half-hearted.

If they really wanted to get the best for themselves, they would have run hard all the way. No, that is not what they did. Instead of that they pu$$y footed around, let the pace drag, ran less than their bests and got beat. Unfortunately, due to poor mental attitudes, this happens way too often in what should be important races for them.

7 years ago 02/28/2017 9:12pm EST

re: Slamin

Due to new news on he's. Bumpity

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