Opinions on this long run substitute workout

Quit being lazy and do long runs man, seriously, wtf lol?

wthbro wrote:

Quit being lazy and do long runs man, seriously, wtf lol?

Whatever, Chuck. Long runs are only beneficial for marathoners

Long runs are overated wrote:

wthbro wrote:

Quit being lazy and do long runs man, seriously, wtf lol?

Whatever, Chuck. Long runs are only beneficial for marathoners

I agree man, doing your made up 9 mile mixed run might as well be another tempo run. I don't get it. Do a double on your would have been long run day. Do 4/5 easy and 4/5 later in the day. Doing a double is not a long run, but the intensity is much less. I'd bet you probably run a speed day and a tempo day already. Now you wanna add in a 9 mile mixed lactate day? Do you run your easy days faster too?

Long runs are overated wrote:

wthbro wrote:

Quit being lazy and do long runs man, seriously, wtf lol?

Whatever, Chuck. Long runs are only beneficial for marathoners

You asked for opinions. Why ask if you already know all the answers?

Long runs are overated wrote:

wthbro wrote:

Quit being lazy and do long runs man, seriously, wtf lol?

Whatever, Chuck. Long runs are only beneficial for marathoners

Lol that's a stupid workout. Man up & do the LR you'll regret it later when you get out kicked or when you can't hang with the pack

Serious?? wrote:

Long runs are overated wrote:

Whatever, Chuck. Long runs are only beneficial for marathoners

I agree man, doing your made up 9 mile mixed run might as well be another tempo run. I don't get it. Do a double on your would have been long run day. Do 4/5 easy and 4/5 later in the day. Doing a double is not a long run, but the intensity is much less. I'd bet you probably run a speed day and a tempo day already. Now you wanna add in a 9 mile mixed lactate day? Do you run your easy days faster too?

I actually do my easy runs extremely easy

Serious?? wrote:

Long runs are overated wrote:

Whatever, Chuck. Long runs are only beneficial for marathoners

I agree man, doing your made up 9 mile mixed run might as well be another tempo run. I don't get it. Do a double on your would have been long run day. Do 4/5 easy and 4/5 later in the day. Doing a double is not a long run, but the intensity is much less. I'd bet you probably run a speed day and a tempo day already. Now you wanna add in a 9 mile mixed lactate day? Do you run your easy days faster too?

But my heart never touched 75%. So there was no lactate

Bump. This is an interesting workout if you never went over 75% MHR

You vs. Lydiard. Tough choice.

I did a pretty decent workout just off the cuff Friday that went pretty well. 4 easy 1 medium 2.5 tempo pace 1.5medium 3x1000 (300 hard 300recover 400 tempo pace) continuous cool down

Bout 12 miles total at diff paces

If you feel long runs are too hard, try a lower impact form of cardio and do that for 90-120min. instead. Some folks prefer to ride a bike or use ellipiticals or treadmills because the long run's simply too much stress on the joints. You could even do a long bik ride and finish with a couple miles of jogging just to keep the body remembering the feeling of running on tired legs.

Do you do anything for strength training? Strengthening exercises can improve bone density and tendon strength, thus to help make long runs more bare-able; it could be as simple as doing 3 sets of 15 jumping squats and 25 pairs of lunges right after an easy or hard run.

The workout above seems like a fartlek type workout. Depending on your weekly mileage 9 miles might be a long run or just a glorified easy day with strides. If you're running 45 or less miles a week, then this workout is a fantastic long run substitute, but if you're running 45-50 or more then you should consider this just a fartlek workout.