Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

The point is, Flagpole and I do not have the same ideology across the board.

But since this thread is about Trump, I believe that we do agree that Trump is having another bad week right now.

With the Woodward book and the anonymous White House senior official New York Times Ope Ed both saying that the people around Trump are trying their best to not let Trump's impetuousness destroy the country, Trump's head is exploding.

Trump thinks that treason is when you don't support the president, when it actually means that you are working with a foreign enemy against the United States.

Sort of like working with Russia to disrupt the US election process would be treason.

But talking to a national newspaper is not treason.

L L wrote:

The point is, Flagpole and I do not have the same ideology across the board.

But since this thread is about Trump, I believe that we do agree that Trump is having another bad week right now.

With the Woodward book and the anonymous White House senior official New York Times Ope Ed both saying that the people around Trump are trying their best to not let Trump's impetuousness destroy the country, Trump's head is exploding.

Trump thinks that treason is when you don't support the president, when it actually means that you are working with a foreign enemy against the United States.

Sort of like working with Russia to disrupt the US election process would be treason.

But talking to a national newspaper is not treason.

It is odd that this thread is so quiet after the Woodward book and NYT Op Ed piece. It seems like there would be much to talk about.

Perhaps the Trumpettes are throwing in the towel. Nothing left to say other than, "But Hillary!"

I cannot imagine the amount of destruction this anonymous source has unleashed on Trump’s ego. The embarrassment of the contents alone - and it’s just astonishing even if unsurprising. It’s such a big F U to Trump that he’s being told nobody really respects him in the WH. People really need to let this leak sink in.

What’s the purpose of a college degree?

If your degree doesn’t lead to an occupation then your degree is pointless.

If everyone gets to go to college for free then jobs are going to start requiring a college degree that otherwise wouldn’t. This already happens to some extent.

Colleges will want that government money so entry standards and graduation standards will fall in order to keep as many students in college as possible.

The result of this is basically a college education that is no harder than 4 more years of high school.

Alan

PIO! wrote:

It is odd that this thread is so quiet after the Woodward book and NYT Op Ed piece. It seems like there would be much to talk about.

Then why don't we play everyone's favorite new parlor game called, "Who wrote the anonymous op-ed?"

Early speculation says it is Pence or Pence's speechwriter. This is based primarily on the uncommon word, "lodestar" that appears in the op-ed and in many of Pence's speeches.

Lawrence O'Donnell gave a pretty convincing argument that the culprit is likely to be Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats. I'm betting on this one.

Anybody else have an educated guess as to who it is or who it could not be?

In fact I would say we are already there as far as undergraduate degrees being mostly worthless pieces of paper.

Anyone can save a ton of time and money and take all of their classes online and receive a degree from a state college. If you can put sentences together in a semi coherent way and learn the art of BS any fool can earn a college degree.

I would be more apt to support free trade schools/apprenticeships.

Alan

Crazy Mericans wrote:

Any Americans still supporting Trump must be deranged. Your man is an absolutely worthless piece of trash with the emotions and judgment of a toddler. And didn’t your people investigate Clinton to no end and come out empty handed, and still Trump voters and your conservative media keep taking about her? You mates are all fked in your heads.

Any American not supporting President Trump must be deranged. He has made American great again by unleashing unprecedented economic growth after decades of carnage inflicted by both Republican and Democratic presidents. He has made America much safer by securing the border and throwing out undesirables. He has restored the moral rectitude of the country by allowing us to say "Merry Christmas" without any fear of retribution. He is easily the greatest president since Abe Lincoln. We should all be grateful that such a great man has chosen to serve our country.

Hmm who should I listen to? you mr nobody redneck or the Resistance who work with Trump directly and know what kind of “great man” he is

1. He has ridden Obama's recession recovery to economic growth.

2. Secured the border and thrown out undesirables? News to me.

3. We can say Merry Christmas? Uh, okay.

What HAS he done?

Fat hurts wrote:

PIO! wrote:

It is odd that this thread is so quiet after the Woodward book and NYT Op Ed piece. It seems like there would be much to talk about.

Then why don't we play everyone's favorite new parlor game called, "Who wrote the anonymous op-ed?"

Early speculation says it is Pence or Pence's speechwriter. This is based primarily on the uncommon word, "lodestar" that appears in the op-ed and in many of Pence's speeches.

Lawrence O'Donnell gave a pretty convincing argument that the culprit is likely to be Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats. I'm betting on this one.

Anybody else have an educated guess as to who it is or who it could not be?

A couple of Indiana boys!

My vote is on Pence. He’s fueling his future run at the presidency.....making himself out to be the light in the dark pit that is this presidency. It will eventually be leaked....maybe not for a while though.

One question I have is how many Trump voters don’t watch much news? Well, really any voter. I would guess around 30-35% in either direction will always vote for the party regardless of what plant or animal is propped up as a candidate.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

A couple of Indiana boys!

My vote is on Pence. He’s fueling his future run at the presidency.....making himself out to be the light in the dark pit that is this presidency. It will eventually be leaked....maybe not for a while though.

One question I have is how many Trump voters don’t watch much news? Well, really any voter. I would guess around 30-35% in either direction will always vote for the party regardless of what plant or animal is propped up as a candidate.

Alan

So then, how many votes do you think this fellow is good for?

This is the biggest threat to election interference...not Russia.....

I can't tell if you are joking or not. If you are trying to be funny then, well done good sir.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Then why don't we play everyone's favorite new parlor game called, "Who wrote the anonymous op-ed?"

Early speculation says it is Pence or Pence's speechwriter. This is based primarily on the uncommon word, "lodestar" that appears in the op-ed and in many of Pence's speeches.

Lawrence O'Donnell gave a pretty convincing argument that the culprit is likely to be Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats. I'm betting on this one.

Anybody else have an educated guess as to who it is or who it could not be?

A couple of Indiana boys!

My vote is on Pence. He’s fueling his future run at the presidency.....making himself out to be the light in the dark pit that is this presidency. It will eventually be leaked....maybe not for a while though.

Alan

That's the main reason I doubt it is Pence. Whoever did it must know that he (or she) will eventually be found out.

If it was Pence then this was an incredibly self-serving thing to do. It could lead to impeachment of the VP. And Pence would deserve it.

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/06/north-carolina-hit-with-subpoena-for-millions-voter-records-by-federal-officials-investigating-fraud.html

This is the biggest threat to election interference...not Russia.....

Remember, voter fraud doesn't exist (unless you investigate it).

"The defendants – from numerous countries, including Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Nigeria and Germany – were accused of filing a false claim of citizenship in order to vote or illegal voting."

Didn't some idiot on this thread say earlier that illegal aliens don't register and vote because they are afraid to risk being caught.

Wrong again, Flagpole.

L L wrote:

The point is, Flagpole and I do not have the same ideology across the board.

But since this thread is about Trump, I believe that we do agree that Trump is having another bad week right now.

Correct. You and I are very close politically. Hard to find two people who agree on absolutely everything. Fine by me.

As bad as I have always known Trump to be and as bad as I expected this all to go for him, I did not expect this now seemingly very likely resistance within his administration. I am pleased to see that there are those around him who see his lunacy, but I did not expect it.

This now opens up the possibility, however slim, that there might be a 25th Amendment path to removal. I don't think this happens though.

Runningart2004 wrote:

What’s the purpose of a college degree?

If your degree doesn’t lead to an occupation then your degree is pointless.

If everyone gets to go to college for free then jobs are going to start requiring a college degree that otherwise wouldn’t. This already happens to some extent.

Colleges will want that government money so entry standards and graduation standards will fall in order to keep as many students in college as possible.

The result of this is basically a college education that is no harder than 4 more years of high school.

Alan

You know that having a college degree is more desirable that not having one when employers look for employees.

You would still have to be accepted to college and you would still have to pass the classes to get the degree.

I would argue that some private colleges lower their entry standards for families with serious money right now.

Tuition free college would mean that financially disadvantaged doesn't mean education opportunity disadvantaged.

I would apply the same grants to trade schools or apprenticeships instead college.

There will still be young people that forego "free" college to go straight to work.

There is an opportunity cost of going to school over working full time for some.

People will get to go to college without tuition or loans or financial aid forms being an obstacle and employers will have a more educated workforce to choose from.

People will have to do more things to differentiate themselves to get jobs.

I don't see the advantage of the current system where young people with no income have to come up with money from their parents or loans from banks to continue their basic education. College is now basic education.

I always wondered about these people that work for Trump.

How could they take that job and be respectful?

But some are good patriots who would rather be keeping an eye on him and limiting than letting incompetent people work for him.

If all of his people were Stephen Miller or Scott Pruitt we'd be in terrible shape right now.

Liberal Mind wrote:

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/06/north-carolina-hit-with-subpoena-for-millions-voter-records-by-federal-officials-investigating-fraud.html

This is the biggest threat to election interference...not Russia.....

Remember, voter fraud doesn't exist (unless you investigate it).

"The defendants – from numerous countries, including Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Nigeria and Germany – were accused of filing a false claim of citizenship in order to vote or illegal voting."

Didn't some idiot on this thread say earlier that illegal aliens don't register and vote because they are afraid to risk being caught.

Wrong again, Flagpole.

Like all the previous investigations, this one will turn up something close to zilch. They may find a few voters who mistakenly thought they were eligible to vote. It may turn up one or two who were stupid enough to risk a felony conviction.

Total convictions of illegal immigrant voting will number less than ten. More likely, less than five.

But that's all. Nothing to see here.